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Apr282019

Podcast: Smackdown '72 Conversation

Part Two of the Smackdown of 1972. (Part One ICYMI)

 

You've read our blurbs about Oscar's Supporting Actress Nominees of 1972, a fascinating bunch. Now hear the in-depth conversation that goes along with it. Nathaniel welcomes actresses Donna Lynne Champlin (Crazy Ex-Girlfriend) and Kathy Deitch (American Horror Story: Freakshow) as well as writer/directors Arun Welandawe-Prematilleke and Eric Blume to discuss these talented women and their time capsule movies. Come with us to 1972! Find out which movie is accurately described as "hot garbage," which inspired a musical spoof, and marvel that the Smackdown winners were somehow the performances we were actually most divided on.

You can listen to the podcast right here at the bottom of the post or download from iTunes. 

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I also watched SUNSET BEACH as a kid so I knew exactly what Arun was talking about!! I think it went on for like a month and the actors hated it because they had to spend days and days in the same uncomfortable formalwear.

April 28, 2019 | Unregistered CommenterJakey

https://www.sfgate.com/entertainment/article/Oscar-s-Greatest-Moments-2863410.php

Later that night, Duvall explained to the press that he was not laughing at Winters but because James Caan, his co-star in "The Godfather," had been making funny faces. If this was small comfort, at least Winters could find solace after Duvall, also nominated in the supporting category, also went home a loser.

April 28, 2019 | Unregistered CommenterPeggy Sue

What fun. For a sloppier Eileen Heckart, "The Bad Seed" comes to mind. I don't know her full career either, but that must be Heckart's Oma.

April 28, 2019 | Unregistered CommenterDave S.

@ Dave S.- Her character is literally inebriated every scene she is in.

Personally, I thought Heckart's best performance was Somebody Up There Likes Me, but she is also great in Bus Stop as Marilyn Monroe's best friend.

April 29, 2019 | Unregistered CommenterTom G.

Great article! Sri Lanka have been on of my top tour destinations. Love country it's people. If you plan to go there , you should probably go on Kandy to Sigiriya day tour.

April 29, 2019 | Unregistered CommenterSmith

I was literally screaming The Bad Seed to my phone as I was listening. It’s her only other nomination and she literally plays a sloppy drunk of Tyrellian proportions.

April 29, 2019 | Unregistered CommenterMJ

This was a great panel making for the best Smackdown podcast yet. Every one of the four needs to come back!

April 29, 2019 | Unregistered CommenterJJ

Wonderful podcast! You have amazing friends NAT. A total joy!

April 29, 2019 | Unregistered CommenterIshmael

This was one of my favourite smackdowns. I guess I had a better time doing it than you did!
I love having the chance to discover Tyrrell, wonder why Berlin never got a sitcom or finally watching Butterflies.

April 29, 2019 | Unregistered CommenterPeggy Sue

I propose this entire panel return for another Smackdown! Fantastic.

April 29, 2019 | Unregistered CommenterSuzanne

I prefer it with journalists or actressexuals only. Actors always turn everything about themselves.

April 29, 2019 | Unregistered CommenterChani

Duvall could lie and state that Caan was making faces from the audience, but his laughing has to be the rudest thing that I’ve ever seen.
The Poseidon Adventure is a great film. People can whine about its over-the-top/campiness, but I’ll always revere it and no other ‘disaster’ film is better.

April 29, 2019 | Unregistered CommenterTOM

Chani -- Agree (partially). Their writings were more insighful

Am I the only one who liked Fat City? It would have won 4 Independent Spirit Awards in the 90s

April 29, 2019 | Unregistered CommenterPeggy Sue

@Peggy Sue

I love Fat City and would have given it a slew of nominations, including Picture, Lead Actor and Supporting Actor. It's one of my favorite early performances from Bridges.

April 29, 2019 | Unregistered CommenterDrew

Keach was a revelation! Also loved the italian trainer (& his wife) and that beautiful end at the Café.

April 29, 2019 | Unregistered CommenterPeggy Sue

Drew & Peggy Sue -- I think i need to see FAT CITY again. It had a vibe and atmosphere that I wasn't expecting at all and I'd like to see it under non-supporting actress circumstances. Susan Tyrrell is truly a supporting character (you could actually lift her out of the movie entirely -- not that you'd want to!! -- and still have the same exact plot, which can't be said for any of the other nominees but for Geraldine Page)

Tom -- i'm still shocked whenever i watch that clip. It makes me really dislike Robert Duvall despite his talent.

JJ -- glad you enjoyed. I loved this panel, too.

Jakey -- how wild. I imagined that was an obscure reference but I guess not!

April 29, 2019 | Registered CommenterNATHANIEL R

I remember that Sunset Beach plot as well! LOL

April 29, 2019 | Unregistered CommenterStephenM

Is it wrong that I completely love "The Poseidon Adventure" and find it the best religious film I've seen? Which is not the best film about religion, which I think is, "Monty Python's Life of Brian".

April 29, 2019 | Unregistered CommenterJesus Alonso

For anyone else out there who loved Jeannie Berlin in The Heartbreak Kid, check her out in Kenneth Lonergan's flawed-but-still-excellent Margaret from 2011. You'll see a much older but just as talented Berlin in a good meaty supporting role. Love her.

April 29, 2019 | Unregistered CommenterRob

Rob -- yes, she's very good in MARGARET and I thought she was sensational in THE NIGHT OF... on HBO, so it's cool she's still working occasionally.

April 29, 2019 | Registered CommenterNATHANIEL R

It makes me really dislike Robert Duvall despite his talent.

Better not probe further, his politics are awful.

April 29, 2019 | Unregistered Commenter/3rtful

Rob - Berlin is great in that movie. I've only seen it one but I can't forget the speakerphone scene.

What the hell happened to her from 1990 to 2003? That's a huge gap.

April 29, 2019 | Unregistered CommenterPeggy Sue

The speakerphone scene! What a beautifully idiosyncratic performance. There’s an alternate timeline in which Jeannie Berlin won the Best Supporting Actress Oscar for Margaret and I kinda want to be there.

April 30, 2019 | Unregistered CommenterMJ

Thanks for the podcast! I just got to it, and it was a great, lively conversation.

I first knew Eileen Heckart from that short-lived TV show, The Five Mrs. Buchanans, about a steely matriach (Heckart) and her daughters-in-law, including Beth Broderick, Judith Ivey and Harriet Sansom Harris. I remember it as a real hoo, but mostly I'll always be thankful for it for introducing me to Harriet Harris.

May 1, 2019 | Unregistered CommenterJames from Ames

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