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Sunday
Feb142021

Tweetweek: Lucas Hedges not a cinephile, Kirsten Dunst's mystique, Jamie Dornan clones 

Can we talk about Lucas Hedges saying he'd never seen a Michelle Pfeiffer pfilm while promoting French Exit (finally "out" though that definition is so strange now) in which he plays her son?

How is that even possible? Yes, he's just 24 but he's in the industry and she's made all kinds of movies in every genre from massive franchises to surprise blockbusters to indie darlings to cult favourites...

How do you get through life never having seen Grease 2 or Scarface or The Age of Innocence or Married to the Mob or Batman Returns or Witches of Eastwick or Dangerous Liaisons or Ant Man and the Wasp or Dangerous Minds or White Oleander or Stardust or Hairspray or What Lies Beneath or any number of other movies. Never having seen a single one of those? Ugh.

Anyway, yours truly took Valentine's Weekend off because he finally had reason to celebrate. But posting will be back to robust soon. In the meantime please to enjoy these amusing showbiz related tweets featuring Kirsten Dunst, Justice League, Jamie Dornan, and more. 

 

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I'm going to defend dear li'l Lucas Hedges because he's a sweet fella who admits to an anxiety disorder and existing somewhere on the LGBTQ "spectrum," and, unlike that self-satisfied Timotheeee Chalamet, he's clearly pretty humble and down-to-earth. The headline incorrectly says he's still never seen a Pfeiffer movie, when he clearly said he hadn't seen one *before* working with her (that's for the people who suggest it was unprofessional for him not to have researched his costar once he got the part.) Anyhow, I'm on team Chalamet, and am still hoping for a spin off to LADY BIRD focused on his character.

February 14, 2021 | Unregistered CommenterDan Humphrey

Hedges should watch mother! first.

February 14, 2021 | Unregistered CommenterMJ

In hia defense, it isn't quite a stellar filmography. Scarface, Dangerous Liaisons, The Age of Innocence, that's it. And she's great in The Fabulous Baker Boys and Batman Returns, but these are not movies that belong to a cinephile canon.

February 14, 2021 | Unregistered Commentercal roth

First off, if you're going to watch a film starring Michelle Pfeiffer. I'd suggest the following 10 in no particular order:

1. The Fabulous Baker Boys
2. Batman Returns
3. Scarface
4. Into the Night
5. The Age of Innocence
6. One Fine Day
7. Stardust (not the bullshit David Bowie bio-pic of the same name)
8. mother!
9. Dangerous Liaisons
10. Dangerous Minds

Kirsten Dunst I'm starting to feel is getting more and more overlooked as the years go by as she is actually a better actress than people give her credit for. Jared Leto on the other hand is becoming more overrated.

February 14, 2021 | Unregistered Commenterthevoid99

I'd recommend The Fabulous Baker Boys and Batman Returns before and Scarface and Dangerous Liaisons, especially Scarface. I love DePalma, but Scarface is one of his least engaging films. When it came out we all rushed out on opening night--I risked my life to go out in a blizzard to the theater--and felt like a lead balloon had landed in our lap. Nobody really liked it. It has fun lines to quote in Pacino's bad accent. That's it Carlito's Way is far better.

As for Hedges, it does seem odd he hadn't seen Hairspray or mother! So I'm starting to wonder how many films he goes to, and what kinds.

February 14, 2021 | Unregistered CommenterDan Humphrey

The beard looks really good on you, Nathaniel!

February 14, 2021 | Unregistered CommenterTyler

Ugh. My post way above (first post!) should have said I'm on "Team Hedges," NOT Chalamet. Not that anyone seems to be paying attention.

February 14, 2021 | Unregistered CommenterMikko

Agree with you Mikko/Dan Humphrey about Hedges' down-to-earth nature. Love him in all the films I have seen him so far. I think he is more talented than Timothee Chalamet but I like Chalamet just fine.

My own favorite Pfeiffer films are:

Dangerous Liaisons
The Fabulous Baker Boys
Frankie & Johnny
Married to the Mob
Tequila Sunrise

February 14, 2021 | Unregistered CommenterSheridan

Speaking of Dunst, I recently saw Dick for the first time in decades. She and Michelle Williams are so utterly delightful in it. Can they make another film together, please?

February 14, 2021 | Unregistered CommenterCash

Hope you enjoyed your time off. You could take the whole Oscar post season off and we'd all be more than fed by the magnificient team you've assembled!

February 14, 2021 | Unregistered CommenterMonty

Ladyhawke! Nothing else.

February 14, 2021 | Unregistered CommenterPedro

Your headline is wrong Nathaniel. Hedges IS a cinephile. I met him at a q&a for Ben is Back like 3 years ago and he spoke very eloquently about a lot of the classic films that he loves. Films by Kurosawa (High & Low specifically), Bergman, Billy Wilder and others. Maybe Michelle Pfeiffer's filmography was just a blind spot; we all have them after all. Like Cal Roth mentioned, with the exception of 3 or 4 stone-cold classics, Pfeiffer's filmography is pretty spotty (especially her run from the mid-90's to the early 2000's.

February 14, 2021 | Unregistered CommenterJC

Lucas Hedges is the best. He could easily pick a big blockbuster but instead has spent the past few years saying "I think I'll make this little movie with Julia Roberts, and maybe this one with Michelle Pfeiffer, or this one with Meryl and Dianne and Candice." He's learning from them and just getting better and better.

February 14, 2021 | Unregistered CommenterEricB

I don't think someone who is 24 would have seen those old movies unless his parents were movie fans and showed him. He may also not be interested in watching old Michelle movies, which is not a crime. Michelle's peak was the 1990s. Even if you were 12 when Batman Returns came out, you are in your 40's now.

February 14, 2021 | Unregistered CommenterJane

the only ones worth watching is The Age of Innocence and Scarface - not happening to have seen either of them is not egregious cinephile behavior

February 14, 2021 | Unregistered CommenterAntoine

Dangit! My pseudonym, for when feel like I'm posting too much, or I want to say something slightly snarky, is BLOWN. I think I need to get off line for a while. Anyway, Viva Lucas Hedges! If you want to come over and spend a week holed up with me, I'll show you all the great Pfeiffer films.

February 15, 2021 | Unregistered CommenterDan Humphrey

Honestly with all the Pffeifer film lists in the comments, there are only one or two I'd be shocked or upset that a much younger person hadn't seen.

February 15, 2021 | Unregistered CommenterYolanda

Lucas Hedges has been coming across very stupid in lots of his interviews. I’m over him.

February 15, 2021 | Unregistered CommenterOwen

Essential Pfeiffer: The Fabulous Baker Boys, White Oleander, The Age of Innocence, Dangerous Liaisons. I can’t say I’m surprised someone Lucas’ age hadn’t seen any of her work, since her heyday was over around the time he was in kindergarten and most of her filmography is not required viewing for cinephiles the way those of contemporaries like Tilda Swinton or Holly Hunter might be.

February 15, 2021 | Unregistered CommenterWorking stiff

Ummm no mentions of What Lies Beneath???

February 15, 2021 | Unregistered CommenterTeppo2

Let's be honest: "Scarface" and "Dangerous Liaisons" are the only movies of Pfeiffer's career that everybody should know (you might add "Batman Returns" and "The Age of Innocence" but you don't have to :P ) and he has many years before him to watch them so...

February 15, 2021 | Unregistered CommenterSomeone

Wait people actually think Scarface is a good movie ?? LOL

February 15, 2021 | Unregistered CommenterJohn

I'll just say that I'm only two years older than Hedges and yet I've seen over 30 films starring Michelle Pfeiffer. Her filmography isn't particularly obscure and is also full of big-name directors. I don't think it's unfounded to find it strange that Hedges had never seen a film starring her.

February 15, 2021 | Unregistered CommenterCláudio Alves

Claudio to be fair you're a lifelong film obsessive with actressexual tendencies who turns reviewing into an art not seen since the critics of yesteryear. I wouldn't use an extraordibary case like you as any real comparison.

February 15, 2021 | Unregistered CommenterDavisoN

I wonder how many Julia Roberts, and Meryl Streep movies he saw before working with them.

February 15, 2021 | Unregistered Commentermarkgordonuk

Well... it’s 2021 and Pfeiffer’s legendary filmography is doubted just because a 20something didn’t do his homework.

February 15, 2021 | Unregistered CommenterAntônio

@John: Well, Niki Caro and Matthew Vaughn even think that it is one of ten best movies ever made: https://www2.bfi.org.uk/films-tv-people/4ce2b69555337/sightandsoundpoll2012 :) Surely, one of only few important movies in Pfeiffer's career.

February 15, 2021 | Unregistered CommenterSomeone

Yes, Cláudio, but how many of those 30 are actually “Michelle Pfeiffer movies” and how many of them would you want to rewatch? ;-) I’m a lot older than you and Lucas, but I‘ve only seen ten films in which Pfeiffer has significant screen time (and a few where she cameos). The only ones I’d revisit are the ones I mentioned in the earlier comment and maybe Scarface and Love Field.

February 15, 2021 | Unregistered CommenterWorking stiff

Michelle I is not known to the younger generation

Both my nieces ... who are in their 20s had no idea

Who she is. She has not had a successful high profile movie

In years

February 15, 2021 | Unregistered CommenterRdf

I was paying attention Mikko and glad you updated as I was confused. I'm fine with Chalamet, whose screen presence never fails to impress me, but I'm Team Hedges as well. I'll continue to judge him on his thoughtful acting choices (I mean, his career pretty much started in a Wes Anderson film!) and not what he's gotten around to viewing at this point in his life.

And since I'll never pass up the opportunity.......Baker Boys first and forever!

February 15, 2021 | Unregistered CommenterGian

@ Claudio

"I'll just say that I'm only two years older than Hedges and yet I've seen over 30 films starring Michelle Pfeiffer. Her filmography isn't particularly obscure and is also full of big-name directors. I don't think it's unfounded to find it strange that Hedges had never seen a film starring her."

It's interesting, because I agree with you that it isn't strange, I'm gonna argue with you a little.

a) Of those big name directors, I'd posit that her films aren't the first three or four films you're going to go to when exploring their work (if you're digging into auterism or just exploring film). Even when going down the list of "interesting but not big name" directors (someone like Fred Schepisi) there are higher profile films you'd explore first.

b) Pfeiffer has done more interesting work in the last three years (Where is Kyra, Mother, French Exit hopefully) than she did in the 20 years prior, imo (between 1997 and 2016, only White Oleander and What Lies Beneath stands out).

c) A lot of her most interesting work even before that came from really unheralded films. I'm thinking films like The Russia House, Ladyhawke, Frankie and Johnny). Films that are more curios than anything, but contain worthy facets of a star.

d) If it was April 1, 1990 and someone told you that of the 1988 supporting actress nominees, that Frances McDormand would have more Oscar nominations and wins than Michelle Pfeiffer, you'd assume they were playing a mediocre April Fool's gag on you. And yet that's an accurate reflection of their careers (I mean, I'd have them on the same level of nominations and Pfeiffer would have a win whereas McDormand wouldn't, but it's not beyond the pale).

e) More generally, though, I suspect we all think that actors are more knowledgeable about film history than they actually are.

February 15, 2021 | Unregistered CommenterArkaan

Gian -- agreed. Fabulous Baker Boys is one of the best films of the 1980s and i wish people would acknowledge that more often.

February 15, 2021 | Unregistered CommenterNATHANIEL R

I try not to judge people on the film oeuvres they've yet to see....before last month I'd never seen a Fellini film for god's sake. Hedges is young, plenty of time yet to see a lot more films. Also: I'm on both the Hedges and Chalamet teams. You can like both! :O)

February 15, 2021 | Unregistered CommenterRob

So many comments selected The Age of Innocence as one of Pfeiffer's best!

Do u guys tink she shld've been nom for it?

I rem it was quite a shock when the nominations was out & she was not included.

My local influential entertainment mag at tt time even predicted her as Hunter's biggest competitor

February 16, 2021 | Unregistered CommenterClaran
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