All the Big Sick in the World Whilst Crying Over Globe Snubs
Monday, December 11, 2017 at 10:58PM by Nathaniel R (and friends)
Tomorrow we'll have some group commentary fun with the Globe nominations but tonight let's cry ourselves to sleep about the things we won't see celebrated on Globe night. There's still time to say a prayer to your Higher Movie Powers that they won't be as seriously stiffed with SAG or Oscar. So today I asked friends of The Film Experience and team members to tell us about the exclusion that most upset them. Since no one said Jake Gyllenhaal in Stronger (my choice) I'm giving him the lead photo treatment here because he is amazing in that movie -- so vulnerable and lived-in and present and messy. He's one of our best working actors, despite his completely inexcusable lack of awards show love over the years.
In addition to collective snub tears, I've also corralled theories as to what happened with All the Money in the World and what DIDN'T happen with The Big Sick after the jump. Do join the conversation, won't you...
WHAT'S THE EXCLUSION THAT MOST UPSET YOU?
Ilich Mejia: Inverting Sharon Stone's classic Rolex giveaway, Salma Hayek (wrongfully snubbed for her shaky hilarity in "Beatriz at Dinner") should recreate one of her film's most memorable scenes by going to the homes of each member of the HFPA, finding their smartphone, pulling up a photo of whatever "The Leisure Seeker" is, and throwing it right back at them. And yes, she will be billing Helen Mirren for the repair of all the broken screens.
Glenn Dunks: I never expected it, but it’s a shame that final fluid slot in drama actor couldn’t go to somebody outside of the box. What I wouldn’t have given for a surprise nod to Jamie Bell’s tender, unexpected work in Film Stars Don’t Die in Liverpool, Robert Pattinson in Good Time, or even a cheeky double-nom for Hugh Jackman in Logan (they’re not adverse to giving double props if somebody has had a big year). That Denzel nomination feels like a bit of a waste for the sake of a few bored reaction shots throughout the telecast...
Salim Garami: Mudbound, easily the best movie contending and yet nobody puts respect on Dee Rees' name. We get it, Hollywood, you hate Netflix.
Chris Feil: I don't understand what is not happening for Michael Stuhlbarg's Call Me By Your Name performance (beyond Hammer being pushed to supporting and sucking the air out of the category when there was room for him in Lead). What Stuhlbarg does is simply breathtaking and he's such an underappreciated performer despite working with everyone.
Matthew Rettemund: No Julia Louis-Dreyfus, who anchors the best show on TV? But it's also ridiculous that Call Me By Your Name didn't get director, screenplay or song.
Kim Rogers: Crazy Ex-Girlfriend's Rachel Bloom is giving THE best female performance on television, regardless of genre. She won for the first season, and I totally get that the Globes tend to love their shiny new toys, but it's a TRAVESTY that she's not here, given the incredible material she's been delivering in Season 3. Also, I know it was a long shot, especially given that they lump all the movie supporting performances into one category (I scream WHY every year and no one listens) but I would have died to have seen love for both Tiffany Haddish and Girls Trip.
Nicole Kidman in Top of the Lake (S2)
Nick Davis: Where is Nicole Kidman's Top of the Lake: China Girl nomination in the Actress Who Supported Anyone in Anything category? She's amazing in it, and utterly unlike her nominated turn in Big Little Lies, for which she'll presumably lose to Jessica Biel, because: Globes. I understand this counts as "not reading the room," but Kidman's work in the first two episodes alone is infinitely superior to Dern's uncharacteristically broad and unpersuasive Renata in Big Little Lies.
Loren King: I’m a member of the Boston Society of Film Critics and Sunday we awarded best film honors to Phantom Thread and best director to Paul Thomas Anderson. So I was surprised to see this brooding romantic drama, Anderson’s best film IMO, snubbed for best film and best director by the Globes. Yes, Daniel Day-Lewis got a deserved nomination but not his impressive co-stars, Lesley Manville and Vicky Krieps, which is odd considering Krieps is Luxembourgian actress with many international credits. I was also disappointed that Annette Bening didn’t land a best actress nomination for her exquisite turn as Gloria Grahame in Film Stars Don’t Die in Liverpool. Yes, it’s a very crowded field this year, but still — a major star playing a Hollywood legend? C’mon, HFPA!
Seán McGovern: The shutting out of BPM in the Foreign Language category. There isn't another film this year that fluctuates between painful and powerful, tender and horny, that is angry in the most righteous way. And the film's plurality of voices united together, slowly almost without noticing focuses on one beautiful story. Some films need the recognition to get their audience and a nomination would have helped this masterpiece.
WHAT'S YOUR THEORY AS TO WHY THE BIG SICK WAS SHUT OUT?
Nick Davis: Not at all clear, because Kumail Nanjiani over Steve Carell is a really easy call.
Guy Lodge: Because it was early and because the film, pleasant as it is, is a bit beige? Every one of the Best Comedy/Musical nominees, love 'em or hate 'em, is more cinematically distinctive.
Jorge Molina: I always think having one category as opposed to Original and Adapted hurts smaller movies. But there is simply no excuse for skipping Holly Hunter.
Chris Feil: With the exception of Kevin Bacon and Maisel, Amazon struck out everywhere - maybe it was behind a bigger miss than the movie itself? And for an international voting group, this was maybe too understated in its profile abroad.
Lynn Lee: The Big Sick lacks movie star glitter - with all due respect to Holly Hunter, who's not really the glittery type. Plus it came out so early.
WHY DID ALL THE MONEY IN THE WORLD SHOW UP WITH SUCH ABUNDANCE?
Guy Lodge: Recency bias ("We just saw this!") and novelty bias ("Hey, wouldn't it be crazy to nominate this uniquely reshot film?") are a powerful combination. Who knows, maybe it's even good.
Jorge Molina: As controversial as Ridley Scott's last-minute entrance in the Director category is, he did pull off a nearly impossible directorial feat by replacing one of his main actors, and I think the HFPA wanted to recognize that. I can almost understand that, but not at the expense of Greta or Jordan.
Deborah Lipp: Ridley Scott is being rewarded for dispensing with Kevin Spacey in
spectacular fashion.
Reader Comments (37)
Disagree wth Nick that Nicole is losing the Globe to Biel. I think she has it in the bag.
I mean, I'd love that, and I was wrong about the Emmy, but we'll see!
I agree with Kim here with regards to Rachel Bloom. I mean at least the Globes are better than the Emmys in that they do predictably like to award new shows, but Rachel Bloom Rachel Bloom Rachel Bloom. This season alone she's been brilliant.
And I know he has NO traction whatsoever, but I truly did like what Sebastian did alongside Robbie and Janney in I, TONYA. It *is* dumb the Globes put all supporting in just two categories.
As for the Big Sick, it does feel awfully "small" and while that's just FINE, couple that with no BIG stars and it coming out too early and lots of "good" "comedies" to honor this year and oops.
Finally, I just hope All the Money in the World is good. I don't even need it to be GREAT, but just good because what Scott did *is* newsworthy and if the movie is good on top of that? Whew!
The Big Sick feels like it should have *easily* been recognized here. It fits in almost every category, it's funny, it's heartfelt, it's romantic, it's stacked with fun performances. Hell, I almost thought those "we vote on film *and* TV!" people might throw a bone to Ray Romano. The equation could've solved itself, and yet. Feh.
I don’t think Jake Gyllenhaal registers as a good actor. He tries too hard. Plus that movie was a literal bomb.
I thought they would nominate Julia Roberts or Jennifer Lawrence just so they would show up.
Streep and Ronan are destined to win, and then ?
ignoring 'the good place' when kristen bell was right there was just plain rude; it's completely deserving for actress, actor and supporting actress as well as best comedy series
doubly insulting when tired old 'will & grace' grabbed a spot
[admittedly, i'd never even heard of 'smilf' before today]
Not enthusiastic about these nominations. But not outraged by them either. The inclusion of Huge Jackman for anything is disgusting to me. The Globes definitely had options to make a stronger slate in the film categories but they're super dated in their Oscar expectations.
The most hideous nomination to me is Helen Mirren in The Leisure Seeker. Did she send them each gold watches or something? She should announce it was a mistake and she is stepping aside out of basic dignity.
par, SMILF is on Stan in Australia. The title alone made me avoid it (which is a problem people have had in the past with shows like Cougar Town).
I don't buy that THE BIG SICK was shut out because it wasn't starry enough. They nominated PRIDE and SING STREET for cryin' out loud! Perhaps it wasn't Euro enough for something so neatly compact. I wasn't the biggest fan of it, to be honest, and wouldn't be nominating it for anything (including Hunter). So, in this case, I am with them.
The Leisure Seeker is 43% on Roten Tomatoes. WTF?
Some of these snubs were surprising although I'm not entirely shocked considering that this is an awards show that often plays it safe for ratings and attention. The Golden Globes suck.
If you go on twitter, Gerwig and Peele missing best director is the sign of the apocalypse and everyone who is a member of HFPA, as well as the five directors who were nominated, should just go ahead and kill themselves. I am so over the self-righteousness and outrage culture. The Globes LOVE starry directors (look how many times Eastwood, Scorsese, and Spielberg have been nominated). These five may be disappointing, but it's not a surprise.
I agree with Guy Lodge - The Big Sick, while enjoyable, is kind of vanilla. Although the performances of Holly Hunter and Ray Romano are so lived-in, real, and raw, that they totally deserve to be nominated. I absolutely believed in their relationship and that developed history.
When has something be "beige" stopped them in the past? Doesn't this adjective also describe "The Greatest Showman"?
If you go on twitter, Gerwig and Peele missing best director is the sign of the apocalypse and everyone who is a member of HFPA, as well as the five directors who were nominated, should just go ahead and kill themselves.
Eh. I mean wasn't there similar "outrage" when Affleck was snubbed? He rode it all the way to the DGA and then the Oscars. Hopefully Gerwig and/or Peele repeats.
For the Globes, they don't realize they have made an oversight until it's pointed out to them. They go with what they "feel," which is often who just kissed their ass at a special screening created just for them (ego stroke), or gave them something material, like at a Sharon Stone bribe brunch (unethical). They are tolerated because they help promote entertainment. I hope Serth Meyers teases them relentlessly.
Their most egregious snubs: Gerwig and Peele
Their most underwhelming nominees: Washington and Mirren
I find shades of Tom Cruise in Jake Gyllenhaal - he tries too hard and the acting comes across as forced. That's just my opinion which I'm sure differs from a whole lot here who likes him.
Apart from Nightcrawler, I don't find his acting natural or for that matter, great.
I tink Stronger came out too early n loses steam along the way, GG never really takes to Jake G anyway, rem they snubbed him for Brokeback Mount 12 yrs ago.
I'm surprise HFPA din go w a more daring new choice on the last slot at drama actress.. I'd thot Vicky Krieps or Diane Kruger wld hav gotten in, given tt they r the most receptive group to foreign, esp European actresses.
I’m really proud of my Globe predictions! I called Washington over Gyllenhaal, for example, and was 5/5 or 4/5 on most of the categories. Except Director and Screenplay I really flubbed on. That’s director lineup is so boring!
Biggest Snub: Danielle MacDonald in PattiCake$ ... How has that remarkable, sympathetic, energetic performance failed to be remembered by anyone at the end of the year?
Second Biggest Snub: Salma Hayek, giving the deepest performance of her career - and in a de-glammed role to boot.
Third: Josh O'Connor in God's Own Country, just recognized by the British Independent Film Awards for his deeply lived in, heartbreaking turn in the best gay film of the year (sorry CMBYN).
Looks like Jono and Jans have been deserted by their brethren in Wesley Morris and Justin Chang this year. What can't be killed simply becomes...stronger?
1. Jake Gyllenhaal is indeed one of the best actors working today, BUT he has a tendancy to overact in some projects that really bothers me : Southpaw or Nocturnal Animals to name a few. In that way he's just like Denzel Washington (brilliant in so many movies but unwatchable in Fences) or Joaquin Phoenix (perfect in Her or Inherent Vice but unbearable in You Were Never Really Here or The Master).
Anyway, i just saw the trailer for Stronger but i got "overacting" vibes all along ...
2. Even if i think Mudbound is one of the best films of the year, i'm pissed i didn't have a chance to see it in theaters and i kinda understand the Netflix ban. If you want to be nominated, release your movies in theaters (not just on four screens) just like Amazon does.
3. The Big Sick is maybe too American for the Foreign Press .... It didn't even get a release date here in France (which is a shame because i had to see it on my laptop and it was really good, and Hunter was irresistible)
4. Leave a chance to All the Money in the World before accusing Scott of stealing somebody else's nomination.
Here comes the angry Lynch Fan for the snub of a great Director testament.
All the money in the world... I don't wanna do politichs, but it has always well known what is hidden under Hollywood underneath and some recently movies like Hail Ceasar! or Maps to the Stars memented it. I think that Globes nominees for the film has been a sort of moral greeting to Scott and his "good choice" to erase Spacey from the movie.
About the The Leisure Seeker. I didn't see it yet but is from a very good Italian director. So as an Italian I'm very happy for the attention
@Jonathan: The Greatest Showman is many things — some good, some bad, sometimes both at once — but "beige" is not one of them.
Nicole had better win every award on Earth for BLL!
And that Plummer nom is such a good petty slap for Spacey lol
I really hope The Big Sick at least gets an Oscar nom for the divine Holly Hunter.
Never heard of The Leisure Seeker or SMILF before this.
We all know Get Out get some noms cause it is deemed a comedy 😑
Still angry that Stuhlbarg, Guadagnino and Ivory are snubbed!
@San FranCinema: I am TOTALLY with you, especially on the first two points. And Gerwig and Peele were my runners up for most egregious omission.
I was most upset by BPM not being included in the Best Foreign Language Film category. It's the most powerful experience I've had in the cinema all year, and such a Capital I IMPORTANT film. It's crazy to me that they didn't nominate it.
My thought about The Big Sick was that Kumail Nanjiani's humor and/or Zoe Kazan in general just don't translate to foreign viewers, but I also agree with Guy that it was kinda beige.
I too suspect vote-splitting leads to a Biel victory. :/
The awards bodies certainly don't like Salma Hayek. Why? Her performance as Beatriz was brilliant!
I hate that The Big Sick was ignored and Jordan Peele got shafted along with Gerwig in Best Director.
Also, I think Aubrey Plaza should go to the house of every HFPA member that voted Helen Mirren and spray them with mace for ignoring her performance in Ingrid Goes West, recreating the film's opening scene.
I mean, it doesn't totally surprise me that Kumail wasn't nominated. He has a charming, pleasant presence but all the other nominees just DO more, regardless of whether you think they succeeded or not. I think that movie as a whole might've been too low-key (and underseen) by this particular voter group.
But I'm also bummed that they've moved on so quickly from Crazy Ex-Girlfriend. I mean, I've only seen one of the 4 nominees (Rae - glad she got in!), so I can't say for sure she should be there, but...she should be there.
Count me in as one who is outraged about Gerwig's Best Director snub! Peele... not so much.
Okay Guy, but the point still stands. Let us not forget the nominations for "It's Complicated" and "Salmon Fishing in the Yemen." Maybe a Meryl Streep cameo in "The Big Sick" would have done the trick? ;)
I'm nauseated by the director's roster. Globes got it right the past few years. Guadagnino and Peele were robbed. Gerwig, I think, it's more of a writer's thing. Very efficient camerawork and shooting. Nothing "poetic" or standout about it. But Scott?? And McDonut?? Pleeaseee.
I can get behind McDormand's performance, but Billboards its badly, badly shot. Its direction arguably its weakest point. What do this bunch know about directing a film?
I hope, come Oscar time, Luca and Jordan get there, If not Peele, then PTA. Academy SHOULD know better.
Twenk Peaks not nominated it's another egregious thang.
Christopher Plummer (bless him) should present all the awards, win all (imcluding himself) and give the HFPA a loud expletive so HE can give the middle finger to the political correctness schlock these awards are turned into. What a joke!
I think Jake will have a second breakthrough sometime in a few years. Like other actors who appear in "edgy" work like Gary Oldman, Michael Fassbender, Tom Hardy, Oscar Isaac, etc., it takes awhile for the awards bodies to catch up. Maybe Jake is even ahead of the game since he already has an Oscar nomination.
I agree with Debora on why the picked " All The Money in the World" too bad about Jake but I guess nobody wanted to see that movie- enough with the suffering roles- a beat up boxer, the victim husband, and now the legless terrorist survivor. Jake needs a romantic comedy now
Maybe the snubs will help Gerwig, Peele, Haddish, Hunter, etc. It's hard to take the Globes seriously because they are only 89 (?) part-time, shabby journalists. However, they are so visible and so much money goes into the show (getting nods and being seen on TV and later in magazines), they do unfortunately have a large impact on the Oscar races. Hopefully for good this year so AMPAAS ignores their mistakes and gets it right for Oscar.
Well, that NYTimes Op Ed late yesterday by Salma Hayek explains everything post-FRIDA. I hate that guy, HW.