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Podcast: The Shape of Lady Bird

Nathaniel and Nick talk two Best Picture hopefuls, the generous funny adorable Greta Gerwig movie Lady Bird and the overstuffed visually creative Guillermo Del Toro fantasy The Shape of Water

Index (43 minutes)
00:01 Lois Smith & Lucas Hedges and lingering moments
06:00 Greta Gerwig, Saoirse Ronan, Laurie Metcalf, and Tracy Letts are all brilliant
16:00 More Lady Bird gushing
23:00 The Shape of Water -wanted to love it more
27:00 Guillermo del Toro problems and monsters
32:00 The performances in the movie
37:40 The Best Picture field, Hollywood sexism, and the atypical versus typical within the contenders

You can listen to the podcast here at the bottom of the post or download from iTunesContinue the conversations in the comments, won't you? 

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Reader Comments (11)

Please discuss Three Billboards on an upcoming podcast. Saw this past weekend and liked it much less than I expected, and don't really see it as a Best Pic frontrunner.

December 4, 2017 | Unregistered Commenterjcon

Can you guys (and gals - I miss Katey!) do an overall recap of where the race currently stands at some point?

I appreciate TFE podcast because it discusses the quality of movies first (nobody does that anymore!) but it would be nice to get an update on where you guys think the race will be headed once all the precursor noms are announced.

December 4, 2017 | Unregistered CommenterMarc

Agreed - thank you for always putting the movies first.

December 4, 2017 | Unregistered CommenterLaura

THE best podcast :-)

Won't get to see Ladybird or Shape of Water to later in January - does the podcast contain any spoilers? Or save to listen to?

December 4, 2017 | Unregistered CommenterAdam Lewis

I'm sitting here fresh off the episode, wondering how on Earth I can spend all day doing my homework instead of going to see Lady Bird again. Definitely have a lot more to think about next time I go. And I'm with Marc and Laura - there's a real focus on your own responses and your own sense of the value these films have.

Also, that Scissorhands comparison is almost as scary as Sergio Lopez was supposed to be. Real shivers.

December 4, 2017 | Unregistered CommenterNick T

LOL You guys always do two or three movies for a podcast and without fail - I've only seen one of the two or two of the three and won't listen because I don't want the other one spoiled.

Saw Lady Bird last weekend. Waiting for Shape to open here.

December 4, 2017 | Unregistered CommenterKBJr.

Echoing jcon. Hated Three Billboards for so many reasons... I hope you'll expand on some of the (deserved) McDonagh snark from this podcast.

Loved Lady Bird--my favorite of the year so far--and really looking forward to the Shape of Water.

December 4, 2017 | Unregistered CommenterBD

Right now it's a wait & see question, but are we overestimating Richard Jenkins & Octavia Spencer for Supporting? There really hasn't been a lot of critic mention with these two. I'm sure that they'll probably ride the carpet if Shape gets a response. Since it's hitting release now, that should work in their favor. Academy voters have short term memories past the month of November mostly. Have to see this film and know for myself.

December 4, 2017 | Unregistered CommenterTOM

I had new thoughts about both films while listening, which is part of why I love the podcast. I'd love to hear more thoughts on Call Me By Your Name, The Florida Project, Downsizing, The Post and Phantom Thread as the season rolls on.

December 4, 2017 | Unregistered Commentereurocheese

true fact: Nick and I recorded a podcast about THREE BILLBOARDS a month ago and I forgot to post it. lol. i guess i need to get that up.

December 4, 2017 | Unregistered CommenterNATHANIEL R

I really enjoyed your discussion of Lady Bird and especially Nat's defense of Gerwig's great direction! I understand why you think it may not be an Oscar nominee but I am so hoping she gets in this year - she deserves it.

I would love to hear the Three Billboards podcast and a discussion of The Florida Project. I initially liked Three Billboards but keep thinking of reasons why it wasn't a very good film (oh my goodness, some of that dialogue... and Abbie Cornish's miscasting). I did not care for The Florida Project and was intrigued by some of Nick's tweets about it.

December 5, 2017 | Unregistered CommenterSuzanne

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