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Monday
Mar272017

Feud: Bette and Joan "More or Less"

Previously
1 "Pilot"
2 "The Other Woman" 
3 "Mommie Dearest

by Eric Blume

Episode 4, “More, Or Less” marks the halfway point for Feud: Bette and Joan, and this episode focuses on power and limitations, not only for its title characters, but for everyone surrounding them.  

This episode sees both lead actresses confronted by a lack of offers after the completion of shooting Whatever Happed to Baby Jane?.  Susan Sarandon’s reaction to meeting her new young agent is priceless, and Jessica Lange has a “fuck you fellas” scene that feels right out of Mommie Dearest.  


What follows this opening is a trio of reflexive scenes that comment on Feud itself: a discussion between Aldrich and his assistant Pauline of how television has helped young audiences know who older performers are; Pauline and Mamacita’s conversation about “right-hand ladies”; and Crawford’s comment on “a woman director…it really is over” (Ryan Murphy has staffed most of the show with female directors).  These scenes are very on-the-nose and more than a little self-conscious on making contemporary connections.  It gets the episode off to a rocky start, but the second half moves into full swing and wider scope as it follows, for the first time, the Robert Aldrich character.

Alfred Molina scores big in this chapter.  What he’s touched upon in smaller ways in earlier episodes pays off beautifully here.  Molina’s Aldrich loves women:  you see it in the small scenes with his wife, everything he does with Sarandon, and his lovely scene with Alison Wright’s Pauline, as he champions her and her talent.  This is contrasted with Molina’s scenes with Stanley Tucci’s Jack Warner, where when he finds himself in a power struggle with another man, he feels more at sea.  He’s also humiliated by Frank Sinatra while filming 4 For Texas.   

Feud gets to something truly interesting here:  a man who feels confident and secure swimming through the power dynamics between the sexes, but who backs down against cruel men who put him down.  Aldrich feels marginalized and also wants to play with the “big boys”.  Whether this was true of the real Aldrich is questionable, but as drama, it plays, and Molina creates some true complexity.  He also will have a strong episode to submit for his Best Supporting Actor Emmy in a few months.

BEST JESSICA/JOAN MOMENT

Jessica’s reading of “I have very few chances left” has a deepfelt and eerily personal resonance.  It’s fun to see Lange, who has never been particularly ambitious about her career, play someone who was so deeply committed to hers.  And the scene between Lange and Tucci, where she tries to come on to him, has a bunch of funny beats where they each find and exploit their mutual loathing.  Tucci goes into every scene like you imagine Jack Warner did:  with the objective “I will win”.

BEST SUSAN/BETTE MOMENT

Sarandon does a glorious recreation of Davis singing on The Andy Williams Show, nailing not just the physical stuff but also Davis’ slight discomfort and embarrassment.  But her scene with Molina, where he presents her with an ashtray of the millionth ticket sold, nails the star’s feeling of betrayal by an industry to which she feels she always delivered. 

QUICK ADDITIONAL THOUGHTS


•  The 1978 interview segments with Kathy Bates and Catherine Zeta-Jones as Joan Blondell and Olivia de Havilland are far and away the worst part of the series.  Bates and CZJ are both terrible, and the framework seems to serve no purpose other than getting them attached to the show for a press release of big names last year.

 •  Lange and Sarandon obviously made the big choice to not focus on the physical traits of the actual Crawford and Davis, and instead play them as characters.  This is truly a dividing line for audiences, as discussed here on this site and everywhere, that the actresses are playing “themselves” more than the icons.  Personally, I think Lange’s natural penchant for theatricality and Sarandon’s fierce directness are perfect matches for the roles, and what both are doing within any given scene is far more interesting than if the actresses were “more like” Crawford and Davis.  Their scenes together are fantastic, and you miss them together in this episode.

• I’m personally grateful that Feud avoids or transcends camp at least most/some of the time.  This show could easily have gone off the rails by now as most Ryan Murphy shows do, but all of these actors are playing people with beating hearts.  It’s nowhere near The People v OJ Simpson arena in terms of substance and power, but the show occasionally takes a high road of subtlety when you least expect it.

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Reader Comments (23)

Dear Ryan Murphy,

Can we get a spinoff focused on Jackie Hoffman as Mamacita?

Thanks,
America.

March 27, 2017 | Unregistered CommenterAustin

Can they do FAYE DUNAWAY VS Anyone she ever fueded with so that's everyone inc Bette.

March 27, 2017 | Unregistered Commentermarkgordon

Totally agree about Bates and Jones.

March 27, 2017 | Unregistered CommenterK

Is Jessica playing Leona Helmsley? Not seeing Joan Crawford anywhere here. No comment on the other ladies shown here in their fluffy wigs (a picture is worth a 1000 words).

March 27, 2017 | Unregistered CommenterMinerva

It looks like next week CZJ is going to be actually in the show next week, so I'm curious how that plays since she's been dreadful in the sideways flashes.

March 27, 2017 | Unregistered CommenterJohn T

Jessica Lange is clearly the standout in this series so far.

March 27, 2017 | Unregistered Commenterbrandz

I've watched that clip of Bette caterwauling "Baby Jane" a number of times and I always thought Davis was having a divinely hammy time!

As much as I love Jackie Hoffman as Mamacita, I highly doubt Mommie's real-life maid was doing anything more than scrubbing on "handsies/kneesies," fixing cocktails, and providing a starched shoulder to cry on!

March 27, 2017 | Unregistered Commenterrick gould

Did not like lifting a scene from MOMMIE DEAREST, and really thought the Alison Wright wannabe director thing was a throwaway plot (that I hope isn't mentioned again).

I hope there's a payoff to CZJ as Olivia de Haviland (in HHSC presumably), but she really seems miscast. Maybe Alison Wright would be better. Love to see who they cast as Joseph Cotton and Agnes Moorehead.

March 27, 2017 | Unregistered CommenterMarsha Mason

I know in the original Cohen & Zam screenplay, Blondell, de Havilland (and Barbara Stanwyck) narrated the piece, with the final scene being Bette joining them, right before the "In Memoriam" segment at 1978 Academy Awards. (This concept doesn't work AS well in the 8-hour format, but the scenes are still subtitled "Dorothy Chandler Pavilion.")

March 27, 2017 | Unregistered CommenterMark

No meta commentary on two previous Oscar rivals sharing scenes on a Ryan Murphy program about feuds?

March 27, 2017 | Unregistered Commenter/3rtful

Where is Big Little Lies recap???

March 27, 2017 | Unregistered CommenterCraver

craver - we usually post those on Tuesdays. can't do everything at once!

March 27, 2017 | Unregistered CommenterNATHANIEL R

I'm not watching this but yay for the shout out to Allison Wright.

She killed in on The Americans the last couple of seasons.and, at the very least, has earned her spot near the top of most TV show cast wish lists

March 27, 2017 | Unregistered Commenterhuh

At least de Havilland will have an eventual point in the plot, but why is Blondell even here? To give Kathy Bates work? It's just irritating.

Alison Wright was by far the most interesting part of this episode. I would rather the whole thing focused on Pauline, to be honest.

March 28, 2017 | Unregistered CommenterSuzanne

Jessica Lange continues her high-wire balancing act. It is really something to see.

That scene she had with Allison Wright was terrific.

And the final scene where she's wandering through her house, dazed and desperate. Wow.

March 28, 2017 | Unregistered Commenterbrookesboy

For those craving verisimilitude, Denis O'Hare really nailed Frank Sinatra.

March 28, 2017 | Unregistered CommenterMary Clancy

Feud's Frank Sinatra is Toby Huss.

March 28, 2017 | Unregistered Commenter/3rtful

Toby Huss is great on Halt and Catch Fire, by the way - an underrated show.

March 28, 2017 | Unregistered CommenterSuzanne

3rtful/Suzanne - Of course....he's great in both.

March 28, 2017 | Unregistered CommenterMary Clancy

@brandz couldn't agree more :)

March 28, 2017 | Unregistered CommenterJM

brandz and JM--I agree. I think this is her fourth Emmy.

March 28, 2017 | Unregistered Commenterbrookesboy

I have the feeling the people complaining about looks don't recognize the actual Joan Crawford or Bette Davis outside of the Mommie Dearest and All About Eve gifs. I'm doubt they'd be able to pick Joan out as Crystal Allen in The Women or Bette in Fashions of 1934. So who are they to say who looks like who? If you don't know why Olivia de Havilland is in the show, you shouldn't​ be questioning anything. And if you knew de Havilland's background especially concerning her sister (Joan Fontaine), you'd know that Catherine Zeta Jones' character is dead on.

March 29, 2017 | Unregistered CommenterMina

wish it would never end. so how do you find these original Joan Blondell / Olivia de Havilland interviews. I am living to see Sarah Paulson as Geraldine Page. Praying to God I dont have a sudden heart attack or get hit by a car before that.

March 29, 2017 | Unregistered CommenterJimmy
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