Podcast: Sorry to Bother You about Oscar's fifth spots!
Monday, January 14, 2019 at 10:55AM Nathaniel R and Murtada Elfadl and Nick Davis talk Oscar races
Hello! No new movies to review but plenty to talk about.
Index (56 minutes)
00:01 Glenn, Regina, Olivia, and Patty saved the Globes
05:16 What we've been watching lately: Boots Riley's Sorry to Bother, plus Support the Girls, Minding the Gap, Eighth Grade and A Star is Born (again).
18:00 Supporting Actress / Actor: Foy or Robbie, and King? Sam, Sam, or Timothée?
29:22 Actor & Actress: Hawke or Washington? Blunt, Aparacio, or Kidman?
35:45 Screenplay confusions / Score weirdness
42:30 Foreign Film: Never Look Away or Burning?
45:50 Nick is thumbs down At Eternity's Gate
47:20 Director / Picture and Pawel Pawlikowski and Spike Lee
55:00 Wrap-up
Further Reading / References
• Oscar Charts
• Golden Globe Speeches
• KCRW's "The Business" interview with Spike Lee
• Nathaniel's Ben Foster interview
You can listen to the podcast here at the bottom of the post or download from iTunes. Continue the conversations in the comments, won't you?
Reader Comments (28)
5th slots: Hawke and Aparicio, Robbie and Elliott methinks.
Might Jonathan Pryce sneak into the Best Actor race in THE WIFE?
He was also very, very good in the film!
Even though Widows seems to have disappeared from the race, I still think Miss Viola is sneaking in to that fifth spot. I think Sam Elliott and Timothée are both in for Supporting Actor. And Foy is in for First Man (with Thomasin McKenzie as a potential spoiler, not Robbie.)
I think it would be hawke , blunt , elliot ( chalamet is safer than everybody think he is so rockwll is out ) and foy
100% agree Roma’s gonna win Best Picture. It’s won in most of the places that have nominated it there, and especially since it’s got at least three awards locked up.
Is there a reason Sorry to Bother You wasn’t campaigned for Adapted Screenplay? Riley published it in McSweeney’s a few years ago, he made it a concept album. “I wrote I, Tonya after watching The Price of Gold but it’s not like, based on it or anything.” already felt shaky but how is making a movie based on your own published material not considered right for that category?
Listen, if we can’t even count on Oscar to nominate ten supporting performers, would they notice someone as small as Linda Cardellini? I’m still thinking it’ll be the Globes lineup for Supporting Actress, though it’d be lovely if Debicki and Davis were the spoilers.
I think Roma has Best Director and Best Foreign Film locked up. But Best Picture? I don't know. I could see them going for either Black Panther, Green Book or A Star is Born. Still, Roma is a film some really love (including me), many like or respect and very few dislike. So a good number of #1 placements and lots of placements at #2-5. But it's not really an actor's film (despite some very good acting), and actors have the most votes.
The Academy has never moved mountains to recognize Nicole Kidman: Either she’s safely in the 1-4 position or they’re not interested. That’s not written in stone, but I’d be pretty shocked (and elated, for the record) if she got in for Destroyer.
It'd be a nice gesture toward the freaky deaky side of her career that Hollywood has never cared much about.
i think aparicio may sneak in for best actress. they're going to love the film (rightly so) and a nomination for her might be one of those late-breaking precursor-light noms that we've seen for wallis, cotillard, manville (bsa), etc. also, she's wonderful in the film, and is truly its heart.
The podcast is always so good! (As is Shirkers - you all should watch it!)
Best Supporting Actor could be so good this year if they just awarded Grant or Elliott. Awarding Ali a second time in three years seems like it could even be detrimental to his career since we've only seen a handful of major performances from him at this point. (I keep thinking back to how thrilled Jennifer Lawrence was when Lupita beat her in 2013. She knew it would not have been good for her to win a second that year.)
I have wondered if Elsie Fisher could get the 5th spot in Best Actress. A lot of young actresses have been nominated in recent years, so they aren't necessarily resistant to the idea. And she seems very charming (but not in a cloying typical child-star way) on the awards circuit.
This is my kind of shit. This will help me get through the week.
Nick's voice is deeper this season and I can't help myself.
"Glenn Close erasure" was SUCH a thing. I read an IndieWire article from about a month or two back that didn't even put her performance in their top TWENTY actress performances this year.
Patty has two Emmys for her brilliant work on SIX FEET UNDER!
I still think that it ends up being Michelle Yeoh as the fifth slot nomination. I think there are more CRA fans in the Academy than we're thinking, and I could see her being the "no Globe/SAG, but makes it anyway" contender that happens basically every year. She's a longtime star, she's in a big hit, she's never been nominated-it'd be so much cooler than a throwaway nomination to Robbie (who will be back again soon) and I don't feel any love for First Man, so why not Yeoh?
personally think Toni Collette is still better positioned than Nicole Kidman and is still in the hunt for a nomination- long shot but it could happen
Noticed Nick said he's almost certainly a Richard E. Grant voter. If not Grant, who else would he consider? Elliot?
PFEIFFER/KYRA 👍
Where is Kyra 🤞
Just saw The Wife last week and I'd be tempted to add Christian Slater to my ballot for the scene interrogating Close.
Marina de Tavira takes slot #5. Called it as soon as we got the SAG nods, and I'm standing by it.
I'm totally a stan for Burning so BIAS ALERT, but I think it cleared a major pitfall by making the shortlist and suspect that now that it's there, it can snag a nomination. The committee to select the five nominees will supposedly give more say this year to the LA-based Academy members which may prove me wrong, but at least in the past the nominations committee has gone for more daring films on the shortlist.
Fifth slot predictions
Director: Lanthimos
Actor: Hawke
Actress: Blunt
Supporting Actor: Rockwell (and Elliot, no Chamalet)
Supporting Actress: Foy
Foreign Film: For the fun of it, I'm predicting Roma to be snubbed [my nominees are Cold War, Burning, Shoplifters, The Guilty, Never Look Away]
@Peggy Sue: I live to please!
@Carolyn: Elliott is who I was thinking of, but I'd still probably pick Grant. That said, my own ballot might not include any of these folks.
Actor : Washington; Actress: Aparicio; Supporting Actor: Rockwell unfortunately at the expense of Elliott; Supporting Actress: Foy.
I listened to this after Bale became the front runner by winning the BFCA and Murtada's comment about him giving people an out for loving him and hating Cheney "Satan" seems prescient. I wouldn't be surprised if he wins the whole damn thing.
The jab at a certain podcast that hasn’t seen The Wife slayed me
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