Team Experience SAG/Globe Reactions Pt 1: Dark Thoughts & Unsurprising Surprises
Friday, February 5, 2021 at 6:30PM Hey hey. So we polled Team Experience about this week's barrage of honors to see where their heads and hearts were at (though you know some of their loves if you checked out the Team Experience Awards). So let's start with less thrilling questions like ...
- Which SAG or GLOBE nomination left you cringeing or shaking your head?
- Which "surprises" were not actually surprises?
- Any theories about the ___ snub?
Read their answers and supply yours in the comments, please...
Which nomination left you either scratching your head or cringeing?
CLAUDIO ALVES: Jared Leto in The Little Things because it's a legitimately awful performance in a movie that's even worse.
ERIC BLUME: Jared Leto of course...it brings me back to that painful year when everyone was pretending he and Matthew McConaughey were great actors.
NICK TAYLOR: I have yet to read a positive review of Trial of the Chicago 7 that makes me understand why this dull, hollow, poorly constructed, badly Sorkin'd project has become such an awards darling. Every cast member looks at least ten years older than their characters and are barely able to make this restaging of historical events seem even a little bit believable.
BEN MILLER: I'm sure Rosamund Pike is wonderful in I Care a Lot, but I truly believe she was nominated based solely on that spectacular trailer. I refuse to believe the Globe voters have actually seen the film. Aaron Sorkin is not for everyone, but most still respect his writing style and distinct voice. That being said, he is a director that has gone 0-2 and people can't stop themselves from giving him accolades. In a banner year for female directors and directors of color, Sorkin is going to poke his head in a race he doesn't deserve to be in.
NATHANIEL: Since most of the best answers have been taken, I must admit that each and every nomination for Ratched -- particularly Best Drama Series -- makes me uncomfortable. It's truly a mess from start to finish, with nonsensical characterizations and born of a dreadful impulse (origin stories to remove all mysteries from art!) and basically no more than a season of American Horror Story (the subheader "Asylum" was already taken) and an excuse for gargantuanly production design budgets (I'll admit I did frequently giggle that they kept claiming to have money problems when the asylum always looked so high-tech, spotlessly clean, and state of the art furnished. Ryan Murphy exhausts me and I am fed up with how much people embrace and reward his fetish for grisly violence.
JUAN CARLOS OJANO: Two nominations for Music. I thought I had an internet problem, but then I heard it right. They snubbed longtime favorite Meryl Streep over a film that was not yet released.
MARK BRINKERHOFF: Amy Adams for Hillbilly Elegy. The SAGs giveth (Minari), the SAGs taketh away—oy.
Glenn Close and Amy Adams Arguing About Who is Going to Win the Oscar First: The Movie (2020) pic.twitter.com/VDZgSVjQze
— Nathaniel Rogers (@nathanielr) October 15, 2020
What did other people find surprising that didn't surprise you at all?
JUAN CARLOS: Amy Adams in Hillbilly Elegy. Again, Film Twitter is a bubble.
BABY CLYDE: I never crossed my mind that I May Destroy you was getting in at the Globes. It couldn’t be any less Globes Bait if it tried.
CLAUDIO: Amy Adams getting into the Best Actress lineup at SAG. Honestly, I was expecting her to be honored by the Golden Globes, too.
NICK: Mank doing so well at the Globes, and Gary Oldman showing up. It's a plum role, and an easy role for voters to recognize. I'm a bit shocked it missed the SAG ensemble list, but Oldman's presence was only a gut-punch because I expected to hear Lindo's name read first.
BEN: I've been calling for a surprising Best Actor snub all year. Apparently Delroy Lindo caught what I thought was going to happen to Gary Oldman. That race felt too easy and there was always going to be a painful omission.
NATHANIEL: Helena Zengel's double at SAG & Globes. I had been predicting her for several months and stupidly let others convince me I had overestimated her a couple of weeks ago, dropping her down to #8 on the chart. She'll be back in the next prediction list once I update (All charts will be updated Monday). Tom Hanks has always been a good luck charm for his co-stars. And it's really a leading role and you know how addicted they are to those in the supporting categories.
MARK: Jared Leto’s noms. His is a scenery-chewing performance in a recent film.
GINNY O'KEEFE: There are plenty of shows that deserved it more than Emily in Paris but the Globes love shows that are popular versus “good” and it’s set in a romanticized major European city. Winner winner chicken dinner.
CHRISTOPHER JAMES: Emily in Paris IS the story of the Hollywood Foreign Press Association. There was no way they wouldn't go for that show.
TONY RUGGIO: Seyfried snub at SAG. She's very pretty and bubbly in Mank, adorned with exquisite costumes, but the performance itself pales in comparison to a more notable supporting turn by Arliss Howard.
Do you have any theories as to the surprising omission of ___?
MARK: Amanda Seyfried’s SAGs miss seems like a blip—the SAGs clearly didn’t think much of Mank overall; It's not a Jennifer Lopez-caliber Oscar snub in the making.
NICK: I have no theories on Delroy Lindo, because his omission feels inexplicable and strange. I don't love Paul Raci in Sound of Metal as much as other folks do, but I honestly wonder - do actors remember how to nominate smaller performances in the supporting categories? His absence over so many co-leads - Murray, Cohen, Odom Jr. - just feels weird, especially given that Riz Ahmed looks like he could be sailing to a nomination of his own. Why not include the film's best, most bracing asset? Where are the supporting men actually being recognized this season?
EUROCHEESE: I was worried about Lindo when the movie first came out, fearing he'd be forgotten. I guess the memory of Boseman has convinced people he was the one to nominate for Da 5 Bloods. They need a rewatch.
GINNY: I think “I May Destroy You” got omitted at the Globes because society as a whole doesn’t want to embrace stories about sexual assault and the real life consequences of it all. When you have a show like Emily In Paris that is all fanciful and fun with little to no stakes. It also shows how stories with Black women are easily expendable when it comes to award shows.
CLAUDIO: Meryl Streep. Maybe they all thought she was a shoo-in already and decide to throw votes at some presupposed underdog. Either that or the HFPA has finally grown tired of Meryl? I'd be sad if she hadn't already amassed such a mountainous amount of Globe nominations.
BEN: If you try to understand the motives and voting tendencies of less than 100 people, you will always find yourself confused. The HFPA is too small a sample size to be taken this seriously, so I just blame their worst decisions on recency bias.
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Reader Comments (57)
Harry - Janney, Leo and Monique were all wonderful winners. Janney could have used an extension of her latter scenes, but from the real life character it was based on it was a fantastic representation, especially in the stylised script. And Zellweger was better than the average TFE commenter will admit. Does that say she was great or merely good, who knows, but this is the home of the 'Zee rhetoric' so i take it with a pinch of salt.
Luke, dude, if you dislike Allison Janney in I, Tonya, you can dislike her win. Feels like you're bootlicking an actress for her previous successes when you dislike her winning work because you won't be cool or fit in here. Go with yourself. The non lemmongs here will respect your opinion.
I was surprised Meryl got snubbed at The Globes but not that much. I guess she split votes between The Prom and Let Them All Talk.
Delroy Lindo omission from both SAG/GG/Bafta longlist is indeed puzzling but at least he got the Bafta longlist mention. Hope is not something personal and that we'll see his name when the Oscars nominations come out.
Mark, I certainly disliked Janney's hammy performance. Manville and Metcalfe would have made much worthier winners. And in truth I have never much found Janney remarkable in anything before or since either (although I haven't seen any of her TV output).
But I don't care about her win because that's the nature of these awards, and they've been disappointing me annually since 2001. My point was that anybody suggesting Close getting recognition for HE would be terrible/appalling/racist/problematic/catastrophic, etc, are totally over-reacting when the performance seems prime Supporting Actress winner territory for me.
1) HE nominations...if that was Streep in a fright wig, everyone would be having a field day & Smile nominations (mainly due to all the controversy with Sia leading up to the release)
2) probably the love for Jared Leto
3) obviously Streep- she had 2 chances- my bet is that everyone else thought they were voting for her so they did not feel the need or the vote was split. I do not believe anything on voter fatigue- which, let’s face it, she is probably already planning her next Oscar project. The decade is young.
Hillbilly Elegy was not a good movie, but not really a 26%er either. Close was good, perhaps even deserving that lifetime Oscar, despite the distracting makeup. I do think Adams fell short at times in that film though. Especially when she was supposedly scaring the bejeezus out of her kid, but just looked like Amy Adams trying to act like she was scary. There were other scenes in which she was phenomenal doing the work that's more in her wheelhouse, but an uneven performance at best. I think she misses the Oscar nom, Glenn Gets it.
All I know is I'm glad Streep wasn't nominated for The Prom as I hated that movie and it's time to stop reflexively nominating her for perfectly okay performances. Wait until she does something special.