Golden Globe Winners. What does it mean for Oscar?
Monday, January 8, 2018 at 10:23AM by Nathaniel R
Sally, Frances, and Martin on Globes nightWe'll dig into the ceremony and key details soon but for now a complete winners list with Oscar aftermath thoughts...
Motion Picture Drama
Call Me By Your Name
Dunkirk
The Post
Shape of Water
Three Billboards Outside Ebbing Missouri ★
I predicted The Post. As did Seth Myers in a way with a rather hilarious opening monologue joke about bringing all the trophies out as soon as he said the title -- a joke that Spielberg & company had a big laugh about. Whooops. Three Billboards Outside Ebbing Missouri was already looking strong going into the Oscar nominations but basically owned Globes night so it might be the film to beat.
Best Picture (in terms of a win) still feels up in the air though, doesn't it?
Motion Picture Comedy/Musical
The Disaster Artist
Get Out
The Greatest Showman
I Tonya
Lady Bird ★
I predicted I Tonya ... mostly out of fear since it was my least favorite in the category but Lady Bird's win was delicious for being not expected (by me at least). Still there was something rushed and after-thoughty about its win (coming so late in the evening when the show was running so far over time and it had missed two key prizes (Screenplay and Supporting Actress) and that's really too bad because in the night of "Times up!" something celebratory -- like such a warm loving female-centric film being honored, should have felt more jubilant... but the dominant title (in terms of capturing the spirit of the evening) was neither of the movies that won but Big Little Lies.
I still fear that Greta Gerwig will miss out on the Director nomination (that she also missed at the Globes). Talk me down!
Comedy/Musical Actress
Judi Dench, Victoria & Abdul
Helen Mirren, The Leisure Seeker
Margot Robbie, I Tonya
Saoirse Ronan, Lady Bird ★
Emma Stone, Battle of the Sexes
Ronan's American accent is so good that it can still be such a shock to hear her in full lovely Irish voice. I still fear that she could be the last minute shock snub if they want to make room for Jessica Chastain in Molly's Game or Judi Dench in Victoria and Abdul. It may seem insane to fear that but we're talking about a young woman who makes complicated performances look effortless and Effortlessness can be anathema for awards voters.
Talk me down!
Comedy/Musical Actor
Steve Carell, Battle of the Sexes
Ansel Elgort, Baby Driver
James Franco, Disaster Artist ★
Hugh Jackman, The Greatest Showman
Daniel Kaluuya, Get Out
One of the night's more memorable wins, due to the gimmicky nature of the film -- Franco even doing his Wiseau mimicry in his speech -- and for Tommy Wiseau joining him on stage (though not permitted to speak!). Was it just me or did Kaluuya not seem too happy to be there last night? He was doing that Tommy Lee Jones or Frances McDormand thing whenever the camera caught him like "Why must I endure this?"... (though strangely Frances herself was not doing the Frances thing and seemed mostly delighted the whole evening).
Is Franco in for an Oscar nomination despite a field that looks pretty even between about 7 men? Last night seemed to indicate yes. Plus as is evident from all the celebrity cameos in the movie, Franco has a lot of friends in Hollywood.
Drama Actress
Jessica Chastain, Molly's Game
Sally Hawkins, Shape of Water
Frances McDormand, Three Billboards ★
Meryl Streep, The Post
Michelle Williams, All the Money in the World
What a nail-biter category it was going into the evening but it soon became clear that Three Billboards had the heat necessary to melt the Globes resistance to the non-schmoozy Frances McDormand. The applause made me believe again that she could (but is not locked for) win Oscar #2 in March.
In a curious push-and-pull reminding us that Frances McDormand is never "easy" she wore navy blue while everyone else was in black, then stated that she was keeping her politics private but then voiced support for the evening's prevailing 'times up!' theme.
Drama Actor
Timothée Chalamet, Call Me By Your Name
Daniel Day-Lewis, Phantom Thread
Tom Hanks, The Post
Gary Oldman, Darkest Hour ★
Denzel Washington, Roman Israel, Esq
A lot of people were hoping for a Chalamet win but, as predicted, it was Oldman. Though Hollywood may well be moving into a new era, old habits die hard and the patriarchy affects us all which means that storied older male actors who have paid their dues are still the ones to beat for prizes while youth is only "prize-worthy" with the women.
Still the room seemed pretty subdued about this win, didn't it? Perhaps Oldman might not be a slam dunk for the Oscar.
Supporting Actress
Mary J Blige, Mudbound
Hong Chau, Downsizing
Allison Janney, I Tonya ★
Laurie Metcalf, Lady Bird
Octavia Spencer, The Shape of Water
As I've been predicting Janney upset the Metcalf train. Metcalf would triple crown if she wins the Oscar but Janney won't as she doesn't yet have a Tony Award.
Supporting Actor
Willem Dafoe, The Florida Project
Armie Hammer, Call Me By Your Name
Richard Jenkins, The Shape of Water
Christopher Plummer, All the Money in the World
Sam Rockwell, Three Billboards ★
Argh! Knew I should've changed my prediction from Dafoe when the Globes didnt go for The Florida Project in any category but this one.
We officially have a race for the Oscar between the two of them.
Director
Guillermo del Toro, Shape of Water ★
Martin McDonagh, Three Billboards
Christopher Nolan, Dunkirk
Ridley Scott, All the Money in the World
Steven Spielberg, The Post
I suspect a repeat at the Oscars. Though Best Picture still feels a bit up for grabs. You?
Screenplay
Shape of Water
Lady Bird
The Post
Three Billboards ★
Molly’s Game
They don't differentiate between Adapted or Original though this field was largely devoted to the Original Screenplays. I suspect McDonagh wins the eventual Oscar as well, though I'm rooting for Peele (not nominated here) or Gerwig (Lady Bird) to take it. It would be the second Oscar for McDonagh who won the short live action category for Six Shooter twelve years ago.
Score
Carter Burwell, Three Billboards
Alexandre Desplat, The Shape of Water ★
Jonny Greenwood, Phantom Thread
John Williams, The Post
Hans Zimmer, Dunkirk
Another correct prediction and another win that feels like it'll repeat on Oscar night.
Song
"Remember Me" Coco
"Home" Ferdinand
"This is Me" The Greatest Showman ★
"Mighty River" Mudbound
"The Star" The Star
Second consecutive Globe for Pasek & Paul. Do they go two-for-two at the Oscars or will another song rise?
Foreign Language
In the Fade (Germany) ★
First they Killed My Father (Cambodia)
Loveless (Russia)
A Fantastic Woman (Chile)
The Square (Sweden)
Sweet of Fatih Akin to make the win about Diane Kruger's performance -- which, well, it probably was. Can the film also win the Oscar in this category? It'll have to get nominated first but if so, it has a clear shot at a win.
Animated Film
Boss Baby
The Breadwinner
Coco ★
Ferdinand
Loving Vincent
An easy get on Oscar night, too? Probably. Funny how some years are so damn competitive and others feel like long coronations for the obvious.
TELEVISION WINNERS
Amy Sherman-Palladino (Gilmore Girls and Bunheads) is finally a winner via THE MARVELOUS MRS MAISEL
Comedy Series
black•ish
Marvous Mrs Maisel ★
Master of None
SMILF
Wil & Grace
Golden Globes love their shiny new female-centric series and always kinda have.
Actress Comedy Series
Pamela Adlon, Better Things
Alison Brie, GLOW
Rachel Brosnahan, Marvelous Mrs Maisel ★
Issa Rae, Insecure
Frankie Shaw, SMILF
She really is marvelous on the show.
Actor Comedy Series
Anthony Anderson, black•ish
Aziz Ansari, Master of None ★
Kevin Bacon, I Love Dick
William H Macy, Shameless
Eric McCormack, Will & Grace
In which we learned that Aziz Ansari reads online awards show predictions since he thought he was going to lose.
Drama Series
The Crown
The Handmaid's Tale ★
Game of Thrones
Stranger Things
This Is Us
Actress Drama Series
Caitronia Balfe, Outlander
Claire Foy, The Crown
Maggie Gyllenhaal, The Deuce
Katherine Langford, 13 Reasons Why
Elisabeth Moss, The Handmaid's Tale ★
Actor Drama Series
Sterling K Brown, This is Us ★
Freddie Highmore, The Good Doctor
Bob Odenkirk, Better Call Saul
Liev Schreiber, Ray Donovan
Jason Bateman, Ozark
Limited Series
Big Little Lies ★
Feud: Bette and Joan
Fargo
Top of the Lake: China Girl
The Sinner
The night obviously belonged to this great mini-series which is now just a regular series.
Actress Limited Series
Jessica Biel, The Sinner
Nicole Kidman, Big Little Lies ★
Jessica Lange, Feud: Bette and Joan
Susan Sarandon, Feud: Bette and Joan
Reese Witherspoon, Big Little Lies
Actor Limited Series
Robert De Niro, Wizard of Lies
Jude Law, The Young Pope
Kyle Maclachlan, Twin Peaks
Ewan McGregor, Fargo ★
Geoffrey Rush, Genius
Was this a surprise? I somehow never clocked that this competition was happening at all so low was the buzz for this particular category.
Supporting Actress, Series of any kind
Laura Dern, Big Little Lies ★
Ann Dowd, The Handmaid's Tale
Chrissy Metz, This is Us
Michelle Pfeiffer, The Wizard of Lies
Shailene Woodley, Big Little Lies
Supporting Actor, Series of any kind
David Harbour, Stranger Things
Alfred Molina, Feud: Bette and Joan
Alexander Skarsgard, Big Little Lies ★
Christian Slater, Mr Robot
David Thewlis, Fargo
The Globes were heavy on the repeats of Emmy winners which is not always the case.
How well did you do on your predictions?
Reader Comments (72)
I am thinking the Supporting Actress category differs the most to the actual Oscar lineup. Does anyone really think Hong Chou in Downsizing or Mary J Blige in Mudbound are still in the running come Oscar time?
Would love to see Julia Roberts in Wonder and Michelle Pfeiffer take their spots.
Seeing past Globe Supporting Actor 'winners' like Aaron-Taylor-Johnson (Nocturnal Animals) or Sylvester Stallone (Creed) - I hope this is the end of the line for Sam Rockwell. That performance was complete scenery chewing. It was to the point of stereotype that I kept waiting to see a Confederate flag somewhere in this vicinity. The stuff that he got away with as a police officer (throwing someone out the window?) made with question the entire integrity of that force. The film had plot point so idiotic that audiences had to suspend their disbelief. (He didn't notice a big fire behind him? He alone gets to hear 'the big reveal' inside the tavern?!? What does he do with the case file that he rescues from the fire?).
I'm waiting to see about Frances. I love her as an actress and she deserves to be a double winner - but, same with her character - her plot point really had you suspending reality. (What kind've police force allows her to get away with assaulting teenagers and arson?)
The film does seem to get the 'anti-police' message that Hollywood loves, but something was lacking in the entire story structure.
I still can't believe The Post walked away empty handed. That's crazy!
I want to talk you off the edge about a Gerwig Best Director omission, but I don't have any evidence to do so. Her only chance is to grab a DGA nomination.
Nathaniel- I do agree that Ronan’s work is unshowy and could easily have been headed toward a snub. However, I think her winning just as the voting for Oscar nominations opened secured her spot. Also, I think the optics of “time’s up” and a lot of the female narrative that formed last night (“and here are your all-male nominees”) should be enough to push Gerwig into director.
I knew Billboards would take the Globes but I do feel it is the Crash of 2017. I am hoping The Shape of Water or The Post win at Oscar time.
Oprah, Frances and Franco were the best. Frances seemed like she just got out of bed which was refreshing
Saoirse is totally winning.
My post-Globes Oscar hunch (not that we should put too much stock into last night's events) is LADY BIRD, del Toro, Oldman, Ronan, Rockwell and Janney. Only Oldman, however, is the real shoo-in - if he could triumph with the HFPA, a body he's publicly blasted in the past, I suspect he'll have scant problem prevailing with the groups moving forward. Del Toro looks strong too, though I hesitate to place him on that same level.
Nah, I feel Saiorse and Frances are complete locks for actress nominations.
I've been really nervous about Gerwig in directing all season, but I think this evening got her in, from Natalie's comment to letting Greta speak for Lady Bird when it won Best Picture. I'm feeling she's in, though I am emotionally preparing myself to be completely wrong about both of these.
And yeah Daniel Kaluuya did not look happy the whole evening.
The TV Actress Musical/Comedy category is becoming a parody of itself.
I haven't seen TMMM but come on—nobody needed to to see those wins coming. It'd be nice if the HFPA occasionally pretended they were interested in anything but a buzzy debut series.
At risk of sounding like one of *those* Nolan fans, I really feel bad for him. This was the year he should win, particularly given that Dunkirk is the best work of his career. Despite this narrative I'm seeing here and there that del Toro is due, he's produced a lot of stinkers, whereas Nolan has had a much more consistent pathway and has been constantly knocking at the door.
Sigh...one day....I guess a nomination will be enough.
Do you all think Laurie Metcalf can still win?
If Frances McDormand starts steamrolling I think voters could (rightfully) see Supporting Actress as a place to reward Lady Bird.
I think Daniel Kaluuya looked more befuddled than annoyed. Some people don't do celebrity terribly well, and he may be one of them. It's fine. He'll still be a good sport about it all.
For someone who was deemed the presumptive Best Actor Oscar winner months ago, Gary Oldman's reception surely seemed less than enthusiastic. I get the feeling that if he winds up taking the trophy in March, it will be more compulsory than anything else, as no one really seems too passionate about his performance or the film itself.
Best moments were
1. Frances McDormand winning her second golden globe
2. Oprah Winfrey's acceptance speech
3. This is Me winning best original song for the greatest showman
4. Seth Meyers jokes were seriously funny
5. Gary Oldman wins his first Golden globe for playing Winston Churchhill
Weirdest moments were
1. I don't watch any of the TV shows that won
2. Roseanne Barr and John Goodman presenting
3. Allison Janney winning supporting actress for I, Tonya
4. Allison Janney having a plastic parrot around her elbow.
5. Marvelous Mrs. Maivel winning comedy series
Worst Moments were
1. Lady Bird is not a comedy or musical. It's a drama
2. James Franco winning for the Disaster Artist for best musical/comedy which is supposedly about the biggest bad movie of all time
3. Nicole Kidman winning again for Big Little Lies
4. Dunkirk, The Post and Get Out getting shut out
5. The whole Hollywood scandal with Harvey Weinstein since October was not good.
Natalegend took care of Greta Gerwig's Directing Oscar nomination, so no need to worry about that one, Nathaniel!
Note: Frances was wearing black, the stage lights just made it look blue (as it did with many presenters/winners' outfits). If you look at other photos from the event, she is clearly in black.
There's no way Saoirse Ronan is getting snub from an Oscar nomination. Not at all. She's in the club already, a la Jennifer Lawrence.
And no, Chalamet wont win the Oscar. That's pretty clear to me. War movies have to win somewhere and Oldman deserves it, more for his career than for this particular movie.
And yes, Picture is still up for grabs. I dont think this win solidifies anything for 3 Billboards, except a nomination which was already a given. I would say its between that movie, Shape of Water and Lady Bird.
It took me a few seconds to realize that was Tommy Wiseau on stage and not another one of Mike Myers' ridiculous fake personas.
"Three Billboards" is a perfect fit for the Globes, something that seems progressive on the outside, but is, deep down, really disturbingly reactionary. I don't think that will carry over to the Oscars, which is, oddly enough, somewhat more progressive (Moonlight > La La Land on Oscar night, for instance.)
Lady Bird is winning actress, supporting actress and original screenplay. Yes, exacly as The Piano in '93.
Oldman needed this win I feel and for me he was very good for that type of film/performance required and kudos to him for delivering such layered interesting work underneath all that make up. Plus if it means we get lots of shout outs to how great Kristin Scott Thomas is this awards season I am all for it. That said, if I had a ballot I would be voting for Chalamet.
Does anyone else think that Diane Kruger is racking up stellar performances that will in the next decade result in a sort of career-rewarding Oscar nomination?
TEAM NATALIE PORTMAN
Nathaniel, I definitely want to hear your thoughts on Natalie Portman. I thought it was incredibly inappropriate to say it at that particular moment. Everyone else had class during the night in their speeches which I was hoping for, until she uttered that. Would say it ruined the show for me, but not giving her that power.
Does anyone think Get Out is still a serious contender for Best Picture? Not sure it ever was. After going to Comedy to avoid being shut out of Globe noms and now shut out of any Globes I think it may wind up on all the "biggest snubs" lists after the Academy Award nominations come out.
I've always loved Natalie Portman.
Billboards/Del Toro/Ronan/Oldman/Metcalf/Rockwell
Lady Bird and CMBYN for screenplay
That's how I see it today. Ronan and McDormand will be close, but Ronan is really charming, in a sincere way, and she campaigns - plus there have to be others, like I, who think she deserved to win for Brooklyn.
I had no problem with what Portman said. In a year where Greta Gerwig more than deserves an Oscar nomination, and I'd say a win, the Globes trotted out retreads like Spielberg and Ridley freakin' Scott. Guillermo del Toro directed a great film, certainly in my top 10 of 2017 and I have no problem with his win. But this is a particularly strong year for female directors, led by Gerwig, and to leave out at least one from the lineup is particularly thoughtless.
I can be fine with del Toro winning BD for a technically masterful trifle. Three Billboards is trite, offensive, poorly-cast and -written, but McDormand is definitely the highlight. With CMBYN virtually out of the running, except for Actor and Adapted Screenplay, what do reasonable people coalesce around for Picture?
Kyle, I agree that Chris Nolan, and DUNKIRK in general, were snubbed. And I'm not even a fan of Nolan's other works.
Awwww, little ole' Natalie P. made all those cis straight white male over-privileged directors squirm in their seats for 30 seconds? Oh, the horror! Bye, Felicia!
Hoping for a different outcome come Oscar night. Who knew that Dunkirk and The Post could not find any love? Not sure if Oscar will love 3 Billboards for Best Pic.
Was sort of turned off by the screenplay win- is their a need to tear down Lady’ Bird in that moment?
The Best Director controversy underlines a belief I've had for a long time:
That category should not exist. It's a glorified secondary Best Picture award designed to leave out the more subtle and light-touch films and elevate heavy-handedness and scale.
The friction between BP and BD penalizes contenders all the way down the ballot. It arranges the entire race around a pecking order of directors (almost always men) who are "due" or more often "overdue" and their corresponding egos. It casts doubt on whether quieter (often less masculine) films are really on par with The Revenant or Gravity and demands that women make a movie about bomb squads in Iraq to finally break into the club.
No one has ever been able to explain what qualifies a BD contender versus a BP contender. Because nothing legitimate does.
@Peggy Sue - Portman was my favorite moment during the show, no doubts. I just would've love she pointed out not only all nominees where men but also white and straight.
Three Billboards is too divisive to win the best picture Oscar, given the way the ballots are tallied -- it will get #1 votes but it will not get #2 and #3 votes. Which film seems like the "consensus" pick, the one most voters can agree is the right work of art for this year (like 12 Years or Spotlight or Moonlight)? I'm guessing Lady Bird or The Shape of Water. I'd like to think it's Get Out, but the bias against horror and violence will turn some people off.
Portman's "all-male" moment was on my list of the favorites of the night. As a director herself, it was an appropriate reminder that a black dress is an important symbol but the proof of change is reward and opportunity for women, not just gestures.. (And I loved Ron Howard's reaction, lowering his head, acknowledging the point she was making.)
Saoirse Ronan needs a better speech if she's going to win an Oscar. You gotta take control of that moment to convince voters to keep inviting you back to the spotlight. Frances McDormand gave herself and her film a big boost.
I love Laurie Metcalf and would be thrilled if she won the Oscar, but I think Allison Janney is going to take the remainder of the televised awards.
Metcalf has the bad luck of competing against an actress with the same narrative (hardworking, veteran actress) only stronger because Janney is much more connected to the film world. Janney also has the benefit of a showier, physically transformative role, and she's campaigning more.
I knew Frances McDormand was going to win Drama Actress--there have been reports about the HFPA loving Three Billboards for the past month. I also suspect Fox Searchlight has been prioritizing McDormand's campaign over Hawkins'--their FYC site lists McDormand's LAFCA runner-up mention, but not Hawkins LAFCA Best Actress win, for instance.
Still, I was disappointed because Sally is phenomenally talented and so underrated. Hope she gets her moment in the sun someday soon.
So as expected at the start of the season it is Frances vs Saorsie.
No way is Saorsie getting the snub that feels like it maybe Meryl or Margot.
I did not love all the preaching (it got old) but I LOVED Portman. It was ballsy and rude and oh so awesomely on point. I loved it.
While I agree with what Portman said, I personally felt her remarks were poorly timed, and appeared to be aimed at the five director nominees instead of the GG/Oscar voters....It ended up embarrassing Gullermo del Toro, who most of us agree was a deserving winner.
I think Greta Gerwig is going to surprise in Best Director at the Oscars. Surprise just because we'd like it to happen but there are so many more established directors with flashier films up for the prize.
But just think back to last year when she had to have come close with also-ran 20th Century Women for supporting actress. Or 3 years ago when Frances Ha was letting her double fist trophies at the end of many an award ceremony for writer and Leading Actress. Even the Globes went in for Frances Ha.
Hollywood is slowly warming up to Gerwig's distinct voice as a creative and Lady Bird has the benefit of being an ever-popular Saoirse Ronan Coming of Age film (like Atonement and Brooklyn) that have all been big Oscar players.
I could also see Sean Baker sneaking in instead because The Florida Project is his most Oscar-friendly film yet and he once again got some key non-actors to give wonderful performances for his film. Depends on how much support The Florida Project has outside of Dafoe.
movieman -- i will never understand people's resistance to calling great movies comedies. I think LADY BIRD is 100% a comedy, and a great one. I also think GET OUT is a satire and therefore a comedy (since satire is a form of comedy) no matter how much people online in droves think that that's an insult against the film. It's not an insult to be funny! Some of the most important works of art ever made in history are funny!
Another thought: Yes, Oprah's speech was obviously powerful, but I was really sad that they let it take up 15 minutes, thus leaving about a minute and a half for Best Director and about 40 secs for Saiorse Ronan and Lady Bird's Best Picture win. Those categories are huge and deserve time for actual speeches. I can't with any critiques of Ronan's speech, because they didn't give her any time to say anything beyond the obligatory thank yous. That being said, the 'mother on skype' bit was adorable.
90s Best Actress Multiple Acting Winners
2/2: Hilary Swank
2/4: Jodie Foster
2/5: Frances McDormand (Pending)
2/6: Jessica Lange
Nat Lady Bird is totally a comedy but with enough investiture and realness in the story,characters and acting that it feels dramatic but it's such a blanket of a film that some feel it's not funny when it is and Beanie Feldstein suppplies lots of that humour.
Ladybird made me laugh hysterically at parts and also tear up. There is a certain scene where we see Laurie Metcalf's character, a ps at work -- it's maybe about 45 seconds -- and is so subtle about what it's really about that the young people walking out when it was over were confused about it and I didn't have the heart to tell them.
Oprah's DeMille speech was one of the best and life-giving speeches I've ever witnessed! There's already talk of a possible 2020 presidential run! Hard to believe, but I'm pretty sure she knows more about politics than Trump did starting out. I say go for it!!!
Metcalf interacts so differently with each scene partner. where Janney does not.
The last 3 suppoeting actress spots seem wide openthe expected nominees all have something working against them real or imagined
Blige - the netflix thing and singers turned actors,quiet sublte role
Spencer - No SAG nod,fimilar role,no stretching
Hunter - summer release,no GG nod
Chau - historical aversion to asian actresses,1 of the seasons big flops
Nathaniel, what I, Tonya is to you Three Billboards is to me!
Good for Natalie Portman. Sometimes you have to shame people into doing the right thing. Your move now, Oscars.
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