Podcast: The Irishman, Terminator Dark Fate, and Oscar Buzz
Sunday, November 3, 2019 at 9:47PM with Murtada Elfadl & Nathaniel R
Index (60 minutes)
00:01 Murtada's New Fest jury duty
03:00 Martin Scorsese's The Irishman and why it should have been called I Heard You Paint Houses. Thoughts on the running time, Thelma Schoonmaker's editing, the de-aging visuals, and the performances of Anna Paquin, Robert DeNiro, Joe Pesci, and Al Pacino. And a trend in 2019: directors revisiting their favourite themes reflectively this year: Scorsese, Almodóvar, and Tarantino
23:30 The Best Supporting Actor Oscar race: Pacino versus Brad Pitt? Plus tangents about Marriage Story, Ford V Ferrari, Dolemite is My Name, Just Mercy and Honey Boy
43:00 Best Actor and Best Director races and what The Irishman's true competition is
50:00 Terminator Dark Fate and Harriet
57:45 The Best Actress race - is Cynthia in?
READ: A thoughtful positive review of Harriet from K Austin Collins
SHARE: Two tweets we mention...
Harriet is not my favorite film of the year but if you gave hours of your life to see Darkest Hour and The Theory of Everything, you have time for a Harriet Tubman movie.
— Murtada Elfadl (@ME_Says) October 29, 2019
TERMINATOR DARK FATE not giving us an ass shot of Gabriel Luna (the first time traveller not to get one in the franchise) is homophobia. pic.twitter.com/5bR2hgcxGl
— Nathaniel Rogers (@nathanielr) October 23, 2019
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Reader Comments (18)
Murtada, I'm sure we weren't meant to take you literally, but Scorsese has made a lot of films that are less than 2 and a half hours long. In fact, most of his output from the 1970's and 1980's don't even make it to two hours (Raging Bull is an exception here, and Last Temptation of Christ is apparently the first film he ever made that was over two and a half hours). But yes, most of his output from Goodfellas onward clocks at mearly two and a half hours or over two and a half hours (a few exception are Cape Fear and Hugo, which are over two hours by less than ten minutes). It happens with a lot of great directors, the more clout they get, the more indulgent their running times are (Tarantino is another example, Reservoir Dogs is only 99 minutes).
Nathaniel: What did you think of Linda Hamilton in Dark Fate? I thought she was the best thing about it because of how effortlessly she owned every minute she was onscreen (I actually felt Mackenzie Davis was overshadowed by Hamilton). I also found Arnold Schwarzenegger pretty entertaining. The film as a whole was exactly what I was expecting, which isn't much, but it was entertaining enough.
When discussing the possibility of a supporting actor nomination for Jamie Foxx in Just Mercy, the comment is made in the podcast that it is extremely difficult, especially in the last few years, to get recognized when the actor is the film's sole nomination. While that didn't occur last year, in the past five years we've seen one or more supporting actors be the sole nomination from their films.
2018 None
2017 Willem Dafoe for The Florida Project and Christopher Plummer for All the Money in the World
2016 Michael Shannon for Nocturnal Animals
2015 Sylvester Stallone for Creed
2014 Robert Duvall for The Judge
In 2011, Christopher Plummer even won Best Supporting Actor as the sole nominations from Beginners
I don't that the actors branch of AMPAS who determines the nominees is all that concerned with if films will be named in other categories. There are far more significant factors contributing to an acting nomination than the broad respect for the film itself or its other components..
On Best Director... I do not think QT is the lock people think. So far I think that the film has lost a lot of traction and I can see nominated...
Locked
Scorsese
Bong Joon-Ho
Competing for the other three
QT
Almodovar (remember, directors vote for Director nominees)
Peele
Mendes
Waititi
Phillips
Baumbach
Meirelles
... and the rest, to minor extent.
Right now I would say
Bong Joon-Ho
Mendes
Phillips
Scorsese
Waititi
... with Almodovar coming handy for Phillips or Waititi as replacement, depending on how much they love Pain & Glory (if they consider it as a new 8 1/2, Amarcord or Day for Night), which so far I think is likely to finish with 3 noms (Actor, Score and International Film) but is on the verge of Picture, Director, Film Editing (it is marvelously edited playing with time), and a longshot for Cruz as Supporting and Production Design (minimalistic but SO effective and evocative, specially the cave).
My Actress five, personally (and haven't seen Scarlett or Saoirse):
1. Awkwafina, far and away my favorite
2. Julianne Moore, but she's got her Oscar so I'm cool
3. Alfre Woodard - sad about the release date
4. Renee Zellwegger, who was great but shouldn't get Judy's Oscar
5. Lupita Nyong'o
It's weird to me that Awkwafina and Alfre aren't dominating the conversation, but the Academy loves its "they look and sound like them!" biopics, so...
I am disappointed there's nothing for Paquin to do as Scorsese is usually great with actresses.
Saw Irishman over the weekend...a quiet epic. Pacino and DeNiro are in. Pesci is understated brilliance, but the Academy doesn't recognize nuance well. There is LESS than nothing for Paquin to do in this movie.
Glad to hear the mention for John Turturro in Gloria Belland Nat describing his character as " So horrible",I don't think he was horrible just stuck,maybe his role in that house was as an enabler and he just couldn't escape,I disliked Julianne Moore in the film,She was so flimsy in it.
I have an open mind about Harriet because I like good stories, well told. Haven't seen it yet.
We're too hard on movies that follow a formula, whatever that particular formula is. The minute you can accuse something of being "paint-by-numbers" it's pretty much disqualified from being "great" for many people. And then people wonder where the erotic thriller, the courtroom drama, the romantic comedy, etc. have disappeared to. Formulas are great because when they're done really well they're satisfying.
I don't need a nonlinear Harriet-Tubman-in-outer-space prose poem of a film to appreciate the story, acting, filmmaking, etc.
"Formulas are great because when they're done really well they're satisfying."
I haven't seen Harriet but from what I read, it isn't done well. Hidden Figures, Lady Bird, and Black Panther followed formulas in their respective genres but were still well received because of how they executed them
What is everybody’s thoughts on Asier Etxeandia in Pain and Glory?
FYi, in the iphone podcast app, Nat's voice is super muffled and has a strong echo! Can barely be heard! Murtada sounds clear. Both sound good if you click on the website link above, but may want to try and fix the audio if you can!
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