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Monday
Jan082024

Memorable Moments and Oscar Takeways from this year's Golden Globes

by Nathaniel R

Oppenheimer emerges as the big winner at the Globes (Photo by Rich Polk via Getty Images)

If you’re looking for a complete list of winners, that’s at the end of this post! 

Hello readers. Though I have been largely absent from writing, I am still me, therefore love movies and watch awards shows. The hilarious thing about my “notes” from awards shows (and also movies come to think of it) is that I always get so caught up in them that the notes ultimately end long before they should. The better the thing… the sooner the notes trail off! So herewith 8 expanded notes from the Globes, inspired by mostly indecipherable scribbles, and probably weighted towards earlier moments in the show...

1 Awkward start! Jo Koy face-planted from the start. Sometimes comedians know how to laugh at themselves when a joke bombs in real time but his attempt to do that with ‘Some I write. Some other people wrote” only feeling self-serving when laughing at yourself is often the best way to get people back on your side.. Apparently a lot of people turned down the hosting gig and he was a last minute hire. But still. Meryl Streep’s blank faced reaction shot during Jo Koy’s “pull out” joke about billionaires having children says it all.

 

2 The Envelopes. Please! Jared Leto and Angela Bassett were the first pair of presenters and it’s wild that that pairing worked so well with Jared Leto lampooning his Method reputation and Angela Bassett doing her always delightful E-NUN-CEE-AY-TION to get things back on track with the actual envelope.

3 Humble Coronation. While I’d personally be happier to have a long Ryan Gosling celebration as this year’s runaway train for Best Supporting Actor, at least Robert Downey Jr is good at speeches. His “most improved” jab as well as comments on his director and his agents were endearing examples of believable humility while being placed on a pedestal. Great stuff.

4 Beef. Ali Wong and Steven Yeun both winning for “Beef” – yay! This served as a welcome reminder that that limited series was just thrilling / excellent. 

5 Great Presenters Who Will Never Speak Again. Keri Russell and Ray Romano prove unexpectedly hilarious together with a cringe comedy bit about being honest and not Hollywood phony during their banter. Russell's desperation at not being able to compliment Romano was perfection. 

6 Speech of the Night?  Chris Nolan may have given the Speech of the Night and color us shocked. We didn’t think he had it in him but, as he pointed out, we haven’t seen him accepting awards much. Like Robert Downey Jr the humility was such a pleasant surprise, in this case, crediting the success of his enormously successful film to cast and crew and pointing out that his job was really just about bringing people together and helping them shine. He’d probably cinched the Best Director Oscar this past summer when the film opened huge but this will only help.

 

7 Best Actress Forever (Obviously). Best Actress is always a highlight. In this case we were most excited about Comedy or Musical and the time was a joy from the presentation of the fine group of nominees all looking happy to be in the room, to Jennifer Lawrence’s mugging self-awareness (‘one of these things is not like the other) when she mouthed, “if I don’t win, I’m leaving” to the camera. True story: she’s excellent in No Hard Feelings (sorry not sorry) but it is obviously the kind of performance you only get nominated for if you’re very very famous and the ceremony is the Globes. The cherry on top was Emma Stone's beautifully judged speech which put the focus squarely on how special the character of "Bella" is and hopefully will lead more people to see Poor Things.

 

8 Can't Stop the Music. I have no notes on this one as it came late in the night but I haven’t forgotten the funniest moment. That gloriously silly dancing bit from Kristen Wiig and Will Ferrell was A+ presenting. The faux outrage after their audience-baiting ‘how long can they keep this up?’ foolishness was a superb second punchline. May Wiig and Ferrell continue to be dragged to awards shows to present together. 

 

STRAY THOUGHTS


Good lord this person is superhumanly attractive in random cutaways: Ryan Gosling, Margot Robbie, Greta Lee, Matt Bomer…. and well, a hundred other people. Winners kept calling the room “intimidating”. Is this what they meant?

 

Not sure that speech did much for the Oscar campaign: Paul Giamatti vs Cillian Murphy… both were fine speeches if not truly memorable so neither made the case, speech-wise, that the Oscar had to be his. And it feels like it might possibly be an actual two person race …if Bradley Cooper isn’t happening.  Is Bradley Cooper not happening? Weird how things just seem so obvious and then don't happen. But they've always, for 90 some years, kept the sexy movie gods from their statues until they were wizened elders.  

Unexpectedly X-Rated (but not intended to be) Moment: Kieran Culkin saying “Suck it, Pedro” after beating the internet’s husband to Best Actor in a Drama Series.

Unexpectedly wholesome Moment : Taylor Swift’s admiring ‘she gets it’ reaction shot when a joyously flustered Ayo Edebiri very specifically (and generously) thanked her agents’ assistants for answering her calls. So sweet.

And the winner for favourite interstitial shot of celebrities talking to each other between awards: It’s Natalie Portman laughing it up with Ali Wong vs. the shot of two out gay heroes, genius actors Andrew Scott and Colman Domingo chumming it up. And the winner is… Andrew Scott & Colman Domingo. What put them over the top is the follow up shot of Andrew Scott chumming it up with Pedro Pascal. He made the queer and queer-adjacent rounds that night! 

 

Complete list of winners

MOVIE PRIZES

PICTURE, DRAMA Oppenheimer
DRAMA ACTRESS Lily Gladstone, Killers of the Flower Moon
DRAMA ACTOR Cillian Murphy, Oppenheimer
PICTURE, COMEDY Poor Things
COMEDY ACTRESS Emma Stone, Poor Things
COMEDY ACTOR Paul Giamatti, The Holdovers
DIRECTOR Chris Nolan, Oppenheimer
SUPPORTING ACTRESS Da’Vine Joy Randolph, The Holdovers
SUPPORTING ACTOR Robert Downey Jr, Oppenheimer
SCREENPLAY Justine Triet, Anatomy of a Fall
SCORE Ludwig Goransson, Oppenheimer
SONG “What Was I Made For?” Barbie

ANIMATED FEATURE The Boy and the Heron
INTERNATIONAL FEATURE Anatomy of a Fall

BOX OFFICE ACHIEVEMENT Barbie

 

What does all this mean for the Oscars?
Is it Oppenheimer vs Poor Things at the Oscars? Or is it just Oppenheimer sweeping? We think it’s just Oppenheimer sweeping. It’s epic. It’s successful. It’s self-consciously “important”... all the things Oscar voters most value historically and still. Poor Things is a better film but we don't think it will be close. 

I'd argue that the second biggest winner of the night was actually Anatomy of a Fall which won a very competitive screenplay race AND took Best International Film (though that's a prize it can't win at the Oscars since it's not submitted in that category and is probably 50% English, too) 

TV PRIZES

DRAMA SERIES Succession
DRAMA ACTRESS Sarah Snook, Succession
DRAMA ACTOR Kieran Culkin, Succession
COMEDY SERIES The Bear
COMEDY ACTRESS Ayo Edebiri, The Bear
COMEDY ACTOR Jeremy Allen White, The Bear
SUPPORTING ACTRESS Elizabeth Debicki, The Crown
SUPPORTING ACTOR Matthew MacFayden, Succession

STAND-UP COMEDY SPECIAL Ricky Gervais: Armageddon

 

What does this mean for the Emmys?
Nothing! The Emmys were voted on months ago so this can’t have any influence at all on their upcoming winners. In fact, not even the nominations could have an influence… unless we’re talking next year since a few of the shows nominated (like say Fellow Travellers) premiered after the Emmy cut-off date.

 

That's all. What were your favourite moments and speeches from the show? 


 

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Favorite moment: AOAF's Screenplay win because it was the only surprise of the evening.

January 8, 2024 | Registered CommenterMichael R

Did anyone else find it a tad funny when RDJ referred to his performance in Oppenheimer as subdued? Well, okay...

January 8, 2024 | Registered CommenterMichael R

I haven’t had time to watch it yet but I will at least get around to the speeches.
I’m so disappointed that I didn’t like Oppenheimer more. I think Nolan is one of the most consistently brilliant directors and I can hardly believe that I am not cheering and rooting for his Oscar success.

I guess we can go ahead and grade the Oscars right now right? No one will probably be allowed to win either the SAG or Oscar acting awards that didn’t win last night. So we can just go ahead and celebrate/discuss/whatever that Oppenheimer has won Best Picture/Director at the Oscar’s, and that the Oscars’ acting winners were Cillian, Lily, RDJ & Da’Vine right? I mean seriously, what a real shame that we aren’t allowed to celebrate more actors. Can’t you just feel it happening?

January 8, 2024 | Registered Commentercharlea

Sadly Nathaniel I really think Cooper needed this. I cannot see him winning SAG based on the internet hate his performance has received.

January 8, 2024 | Registered CommenterMichael R

I was pleased being an 80's 90's movie person of a certain age seeing Jodie Foster with her wife looking healthy and happy,unfortunately she lost even though for me she gave the best performance in that category though I still feel she's a co lead.

How can you not mention Margot's cerise dress and Rosamunds' mafia wife at a funeral hat.

Best Dressed Andrew Scott,The Angela Bassett,J Lo,Carey and Barry Keoghan's whole ensemble you have to be a supremely confident man to pull that look off and the eternally gracious Sigourney Weaver.

The host was awful.

I think Wiig is a very funny lady,Sandra Bullock would work well with her, have never found Will Ferrell funny.

I am not a fan of Oppenheimer but can see why it's winning,they need to get people to go to the cinema.

Barbie had a fairly unsuccessful kind of night.

Gladstone sealed the deal though I prefer Carey who may get a surprising snub.

Cooper only happens if SAG award him,sad how the internet turned on him,I thought he was terrific in Maestro.

I liked Murphy enough but I still left the film wondering what drove him,what his relationships were like with the women in his life,the editing left it all very muddled

Supporting is not over yet Gosling Ruffalo are waiting in the wings

Sad to see Rustin lose song,I'm no fan of the mumbled style vocals common now.

Giamatti's speech I felt was ok better than Murphy,I'd prefer The Holdovers wins more than 1 acting award.

Everytime I saw De Niro I kept wishing Marty had cast Harrison Ford instead.

January 8, 2024 | Registered CommenterMr Ripley79

I can’t see Poor Things as a Best Picture winner. Honestly, if it’s not Oppenheimer, I still maintain Barbie is the biggest threat. This is the year of Barbenheimer, and enough people in the industry seem to acknowledge that that I’m having a hard time imagining Best Picture doesn’t go to one of them. I could see Barbie winning PGA and SAG Best Ensemble with Nolan winning the DGA, which would make for an actual nail biter race, and with the year’s two most zeitgeisty movies to boot!

January 8, 2024 | Registered CommenterEdwin

I know you don't care for KILLERS OF THE FLOWER MOON or Lily Gladstone's work in it, but her win and speech gave me the most joy as far as the Globes are concerned. I also enjoyed the screenplay victory a great deal since, as Michael R says, it was the only real surprise of the night.

January 8, 2024 | Registered CommenterCláudio Alves

Charlea: it does seem like a done deal other than Best Actor, doesn't it? I think that is a two way race between Paul and Cillian. I hope Gosling can make it competitive in Supporting Actor.

January 8, 2024 | Registered CommenterMichael R

I like Randolph, but can't anyone else win that trophy? At least once this season? As things stand, it's monotonous (and there's other good work out there).

Otherwise, I'm a big Oppenheimer fan so many of the wins pleased me, and I enjoyed the speeches from Justine Triet.

January 8, 2024 | Registered CommenterScottC

bradley cooper is not happening

January 8, 2024 | Registered Commenterpar

The nominations were better than the winners.

Oppenheimer winning pretty much everything. Bored. I'm so bored. I'm not a Nolan super fan, he's done great movies, he's done mediocre ones, he's done ok ones. There's so much so obviously wrong with Oppenheimer, I just can't get behind it. My main issue was scene after scene of nonesense. Every time the scene starts to get interesting, meaning there's about to be character development, the scene would all of a sudden end in favor of 15 more scenes of white men yapping.
And to me, the only worhy nomination was Emily Blunt. She took a poorly written character and made it so much more. RDJ's performance is not good, sorry. It's just not. His speech was good, though.

Lily Gladstone is the only thing worth celebrating and awarding from Killers of the Flower Moon, so good for her. If I had to pick between Killers and Oppenheimer, I'd pick Killers though.

The Holdovers is a movie I don't get. We've seen the same movie many times before. And Randolph's performance, while good, is also nothing special. Sessa to me was the best of that trio and the only one worthy of a nomination.

Barbie winning the box office award felt almost like a slap on the face. I thoght Barbie had a lot of script issues, but at least it was fun. And it was nice to see such a girlie/queer movie getting so much love and money.

The only true surprise was Anatomy of a Fall winning screenplay. Sadly, I also didn't care much for it. Waiting to re-watch it, though.

Haven't seen Poor Things or The Zone of Interest yet, but I'm dying to. It has been a terrible year for movies, IMO. And I'm counting on those two. Other than Past Lives and May December, everything else was either just ok, disappointing or just plain bad.

January 8, 2024 | Registered CommenterSad Man

"Queer-adjacent"? Ummm...

Margot's cerise gown = Superstar Barbie (1977)

January 8, 2024 | Registered CommenterFrank Zappa

Favorite moment: to open TFE and see you back!

We need you!

January 8, 2024 | Registered Commentercal roth

@Michael R: I so wish that you were right but I truly think it’s sealed for Cillian if nothing else because he is the face of Oppenheimer. I thought he was very solid…but there’s Bradley Cooper RIGHT THERE (again) with a stunning performance.

@ScottC: You rock for saying what I have been screaming for like the last month. It got old, VERY QUICKLY, for me with Da’Vine. All of the brilliant supporting actress performances that now will never be acknowledged. So sad.

@Sad Man: Yep, totally agree with the last thought about how most movies this year have been just ok or disappointing. I thought last year was bad with Everything Everywhere dominating. But at least there was Tar, The Whale and Triangle of Sadness sitting there to make me happy.

January 8, 2024 | Registered Commentercharlea

It would be truly bizarre if the Academy decides to stop rewarding baity performances from actors who blatantly crave an Oscar (McConaughey, Redmayne, Malek, Smith, Fraser) this year, when the craving is coming from an excellent actor, for once.

January 8, 2024 | Registered CommenterMike in Canada

This is turning into a predictable year, especially on the acting side. After last night, I can't see anyone other than the trio of Downey Jr / Randolph / Gladstone winning. Best Actor is still shaky between Giamatti / Cooper / Murphy, but I'd give the edge to Giamatti due to career longevity. And it'll be an Oppenheimer sweep for Pic / Dir too.

January 8, 2024 | Registered CommenterParanoid Android

Wow, I must be on a different planet from some of you because I thought this year was a terrific year for movies. I'm excited about almost all of the prospective nominees.

On Jo Koy: yes, I, too, cringed. Not because the monologue was bad, though it wasn't very good, but because it was going over like a lead balloon and he wasn't able to roll with it. It was obvious he was flailing at how much he was bombing, when he should've just stone-balled it all the way through. Be more like Ricky Gervais, even though Ricky Gervais is an asshole. Not try to make excuses.

I am very sad that Cooper is not happening, especially after predicting him to win! And color me surprised at Cillian Murphy's dominance, much as I love him. It's a very inward-facing performance, though a very good one. But I guess being the center of THE juggernaut movie of the year goes a long way.

January 8, 2024 | Registered CommenterLynn Lee

Generally, nice winners.

I'm totally with "Oppenheimer" and Nolan.
The best movie, by far. It's hir time, and it's later, he should have won for "Dunkirk".
I'm also happy for Stone and Giamatti. I was certain that "The Holdovers" has it in the bag, so "Poor Things" was unexpected to me.

I still believe in Cooper, his work is too powerful to be ignored. He's brilliant and internet haters are just stupid haters. Murphy is a decent winner, but I didn't see it coming. I really don't see him winning the Oscar, for me it's between Cooper and Giamatti.

Not my votes, but I understand and respect Gladstone, Downey Jr. and Randolph's victories.

"Anatomy of a Fall" made great in International Movie and Screenplay was a (good) surprise.

"The Boy and the Heron" made great in Animated Feature.

Still crying a river of happiness for "Succession", Kieran and Sarah (supporting I truly would give the award to Ruck). The best series in decades. They're geniuses!
And as much I love "Only Murders in the Building", "The Bear" and Allen Wright are great and deserve it (Edeberi is also great, even though she's supporting).

And, sure, the marvelous Elizabeth Debicki (the most beautiful woman at the night) receiving all she deserves for her performances as Lady Di and for being a fascinating woman. She's perfect. She's makes me think I could be straight. (No, fortunately, I can't and won't, just a one-second weakness).

In the end, we know it's just the beginning, but "Oppenheimer" seems a lock to me.

January 8, 2024 | Registered CommenterFabio Dantas Flappers

Lynn: I'm with you - the top 13 on Nathaniel's predix is almost entirely made up of movies I loved.

January 8, 2024 | Registered CommenterMike in Canada

Speech and moment of the night: easily Lily Gladstone

I liked Cillian and Paul’s speeches! I think one of them will surely win.

I actually think no one gave a bad speech. The host and many of the presenters were DOA.

January 8, 2024 | Registered CommenterRoge

I'm surprised to see so many people think Gladstone has this locked up? I think Emma Stone is very much still in the mix for the win and may even be the frontrunner in my eyes. Whoever of the two wins SAG will likely win the Oscar.

Actor also seems like a two-way race between Giamatti and Murphy but I can see BAFTA or SAG going for Cooper and making that the contest of the night at the Oscars.

Supporting races are definitely sealed up in terms of winners, but there is lots of wiggle room for surprise nominees in both categories. With all the love for The Holdovers, I am starting to think Dominic Sessa gets in. He may even get a SAG nom.

January 8, 2024 | Registered CommenterStephen C

I wish Ryan Gosling won! And I’m Just Ken for Song. Still pulling for that song on Oscar night. I think Ryan would’ve needed the Golden Globe momentum to pull off an Oscar win, as that type of performance is so outside their wheelhouse (although their wheelhouse is drastically evolving these days).

I would’ve preferred Barbie or The Holdovers to have won Best Picture - Comedy. I thought Emma winning was enough for Poor Things. I appreciated a lot about it, and I did enjoy it, but the male fantasy of the movie really turned me off. The Lobster and The Favourite are superior, but I get it, Yorgos is more well-known now.

Stephen - I definitely don’t think Emma is in the running—well, sure. But she definitely isn’t the frontrunner. Lily is. They worship Martin Scorsese, the film makes a bold political statement, and her win will be historic. In my eyes, she’s a total lock at this point. Emma could give her a run for her money, except for the fact that she already has an Oscar and I doubt they’re dying to give her another. There are echoes of last year’s actress race present for sure. But even if your theory is true, Lily has the SAG in the bag.

January 8, 2024 | Registered CommenterPhilip H.

I’ll add, I can totally see Huller winning BAFTA actress and making Best Actress a three-person race to the finish, as well. Also, I think Fantasia’s chances get slimmer by the day. Nobody seems to be talking about her. Robbie is getting in, IMO. Too big a year to ignore her.

As for my supporting actor prediction of Sessa getting in, I think Charles Melton has done everything right and played the awards season game so well, but I just don’t think the passion is there for that movie and actors from Best Picture contenders will sneak in over him. I’ve also been thinking only one Poor Things supporting actor is getting in.

The timing of Saltburn hitting Amazon Prime right before Oscar voting starts makes me think Barry could get in for Actor, but there also seems to be a growing fan base of Zac Efron’s chances. Even when wins seem sewn up, nominations always provide us with some surprises.

January 8, 2024 | Registered CommenterStephen C

Philip H - fair points, but Lily’s quiet performance (I personally love it) is not the type usually awarded at the Oscars. And as for the comparisons to last year, Michelle Yeoh was a beloved star for decades in a very showy role in a crowd-pleasing Best Picture frontrunner. So I’m not sure I see the parallels. I think we have to wait for SAG to see which way this race goes. There’s palpable love for Poor Things in the industry, which is why I think Emma is still in it.

January 9, 2024 | Registered CommenterStephen C

I hear you. But in this day and age, all signs point towards political statements outweighing all else. And that’s how this one has felt the whole season. Because despite it being a quiet performance, despite it being an arguably supporting role, despite Lily being a relative newcomer to the industry, she has still managed to steamroll the category. And again, Emma already has an Oscar. I hear you, and it’s fun to debate, but… 🤪

I doubt they want to risk hearing “you gave a white girl a second Oscar when you could’ve made history by awarding the first Native American” from the internet. As silly as it may sound, it does feel true that people think of these things nowadays. I was rooting for Michelle Yeoh last year, but I feel that same argument came up on the internet quite a bit. We all know awards are not purely about the performance, it’s a cocktail of things. And to me, The Academy seems to be in their breaking barriers phase.

Even still, you say Lily’s quiet performance isn’t the type the Academy tends to reward, but it feels a lot more traditional and in-line w their tastes than something as out there as Emma’s role and performance in Poor Things, so 🤷🏻‍♂️

There’s validity to both of our arguments lol and this is what I enjoy most about awards season 😋

Regardless, both films will be showered in nominations.

January 9, 2024 | Registered CommenterPhilip H.

Am I the only one who noticed that Emma Stone got the most exuberant, passionate cheers of the night when she won? The crowd LOST ITS MIND when she won. It seems to me that the industry has a very keen understanding of just how difficult a role Bella Baxter was and how Stone did with it what maybe no other actress could. My money is on her for the win in March.

And this business of internet hate tilting voters against Bradley Cooper is ridiculous. Enough with giving influence to morons who seem satisfied by nothing so much as outdoing each other's vitriol. Say what you will about Maestro -- I have friends who despise it, whereas I consider it the best of the 35 2023 releases I've seen so far -- Cooper and Mulligan are spectacular in it. For neither of them to have a fighting chance at winning the Oscar for their work because the industry is allowing poison from a mob to steer public perception of it is absurd. We saw the same thing last year with Ana de Armas. There seems to be a generation or two of moviegoers who -- simply put -- need to grow up.

January 9, 2024 | Registered CommenterJason Cooper

Jason - I noticed that too and it’s why I still have Stone as my frontrunner. The passion in that room for her win was palpable in a way no other win was. It’s also why I think SAG is hers. Seems like an “actor’s actor” role that her peers are cheering on.

January 9, 2024 | Registered CommenterStephen C

Y'all are putting too much stock on "internet hate".

If that's the case:
- Jamie Lee Curtis wouldn't have won for Supporting Actress last year
- Brendan Fraser wouldn't have won for Actor last year
- Jessica Chastain wouldn't have won for Actress in '21
- Don't Look Up wouldn't have been nominated for Picture
- Joker wouldn't have gotten up to 11 nominations
- Green Book wouldn't have won Picture in '18
- Vice wouldn't have gotten eight nominations
- Bohemian Rhapsody wouldn't have been nominated at all, let alone win four Oscars

The industry will go for who and what they want, internet users be damned.

They. Do. Not. Care. At. All.

January 9, 2024 | Registered CommenterJuan Carlos Ojano

Stephen C — my hunch is that you and I have the crystal balls on this one.

Juan — I hope you’re right. 🤞

January 9, 2024 | Registered CommenterJason Cooper

I actually found Murphy and Giamatti's speeches adorable especially with their lipstick and knee gags respectively to start it off. Very funny. I actually don't remember RDJ's speech but then again I think I was still a bit sad Gosling didn't win. This probably was his best chance to beat RDJ but I'm not counting him out yet. He just needs one big win from someone and the race is on.

Thank you for singling out Andrew Scott's presence in the audience, looking HOT AS HELL in white, and canoodling with Domingo and Pascal (and matchy-match Jonathan Bailey in some photos). It was a gay ol' time and I'm still maintaining a prayer circle he gets in for the Oscars.

I bet there won't be any host next year. Who's going to want to touch that thankless job? Whoever it is, hopefully they'll have more than 10 days to prepare. Jo Koy was clearly not ready.

January 9, 2024 | Registered CommenterRyan T.

Great show, total return to form—brassy backdrops, tightly packed tables, it felt like the Globes again after last year’s ugly, velvety mauve and silver experiment. The Oscars should be taking notes.

The host was awful, but the Globes has never been a heavily “hosted” awards show (contrary to popular belief) so it didn’t matter. He actually did so horrendously that it felt like an attraction within the show. If they keep everything the same but find a good host, next year will be fantastic.

Also, it feels like the A-list has marching orders to show up for these things again…it helped that so many major stars were nominated—EIGHT (!) Best Actress Oscar winners were nominated and all of them came. Post-COVID, post-strikes you can tell the “too cool for awards shows” thing has subsided, boosting the industry is part of the job.

January 9, 2024 | Registered CommenterDK

Thank you for singling out Andrew Scott's presence in the audience Juniper

January 9, 2024 | Registered CommenterLynn Mendez

@DK : good remark about the stars in full force on the red carpet and in the room. It definitely felt like the good old days !

@Nathaniel : in the winners' list, you forgot to mention Arthur Harari, the co-writer of "Anatomy of a fall" ;)

January 9, 2024 | Registered CommenterArnaud Trouvé

I do believe at the end of the day, they will vote for who they want to, period. See: Olivia Colman, Frances McDormand, Anthony Hopkins, Jamie Lee Curtis, etc.

However...

If "They. [Did]. Not. Care. At. All." they wouldn't incorporate something like the Academy Representation and Inclusion Standards, or create a whole new category just to immediately remove it due to the internet's fiery response to it. They clearly care to some extent.

Also, almost all of the examples you cited are not at all what I'm referring to. I'm talking race and identity politics, not the subjective artistic merit of various projects and what random people online have to say about the quality of films in contention. They don't (and shouldn't) care about that. But they care about making history in seemingly positive ways.

January 9, 2024 | Registered CommenterPhilip H.

I know we are all commentators to a degree but I don't think the internet voices should influence anything regarding voting.

January 9, 2024 | Registered CommenterMr Ripley79

Oh, I agree. I don't think the internet *should* influence voting -- my point is that I think it's pretty undeniable that it *does* to varying degrees.

I do think outrage/cancel culture is tired, but I also think #MeToo was greatly helped by the internet, and I think that's created positive change overall. Like anything in life, it's not a black and white matter.

Not to mention, I have definitely noticed how the harmless internet chatter of critics and bloggers influences awards campaigns too. *shrug* I've often been surprised at how nearly every single person that has been mentioned winds up being in the conversation to some extent.

It's more interesting than anything else.

Anyway, I have hijacked this thread LoL apologies -- my point is simply that Lily Gladstone has a definite edge on Emma Stone for this reason. She would have less of an edge if it wasn't a Scorcese film, and if Emma didn't already have an Oscar.

I'll be interested to see if Emma has more tank in her gas past the Globes, as some other readers suggest. It'll be fun to watch!

January 9, 2024 | Registered CommenterPhilip H.

Oscar punditry never made the leap to Twitter—what they do over there is something completely different. No expertise, no insight, no context. Still very much a blogger’s game.

January 9, 2024 | Registered CommenterDK

I think the Globes should be hostless after this year. For the most part, they're really unnecessary, and the Globes brand has always been stars. The only host I've ever liked are the ones that were stars (Amy and Tina). Ray and Keri and Angela and Jared were unexpectedly delightful pairings. I loved Andra Day, and she was such a natural.. I know she has a Lee Daniels horror film on the horizon, but she is clearly made for comedies.

In terms of Oscars:

I think Anatomy of a Fall is going to over perform. Not just picture, but actress, director, and writing. Even though she lost here, I wouldn't be shocked if Huller wins at BAFTA. People seemed to be happy and Justine Triet gave great speeches.

Nolan's speech was incredible. He and his film will win for sure.

I may be very wrong, but I'm not sure Cillian will win. I think the race is between Giamatti (who gave a winner's speech that seemed to resonate with those in the room) and Cooper. Even though Cooper lost, he still feels in there to me. But Giamatti will make such a loveable winner. I don't think Cillian is popular enough to get the industry support he needs to win, but I also might be underestimating the impact of Peaky Blinders (which was a big hit for Netflix, if I'm not mistaken).

I loved Da'vine's speech. RDJ's speech worked well and the industry likes him, but I hope he's a bit more emotional and doesn't just go for the Brad Pitt route of jokes. However, it is the globes. I liked his 2010 speech more (which didn't feel expected), and is one of my favorite Globes speeches ever (sans Glenn Close).

I think Lily Gladstone and Emma Stone both made a great case for themselves. What's hard, is that both Killers and Poor Things are likely top tier BP nominees and this might be their only prize.

I still hope Scorsese and Roth can win for their brillant adaptation. Unlikely, but that Screenplay is so good.

On the TV side, I'm happiest that Debicki prevailed. I was disappointed to see Bomer lose, but he'll likely be a top tier Emmy contender in 2024. I was saddened to see Keri Russell and Imelda Staunton lose as well. Both gave really complex and beautiful performance that required a lot of lift on their parts.Russell, especially, who really carried her show and gave a blazing TV star performance.

January 9, 2024 | Registered CommenterJoe G.

Regarding Gladstone winning Best Actress at the Academy Awards, to paraphrase Mo'nique - It's about the politics and not the performance. The Academy's 100th anniversary is soon to arrive and now can they not pat themselves on the back with politically correct coronation?
I think that Saltburn is hitting at the right time. Wouldn't surprise me if Leo DiCaprio is out and Barry is in.
What Was I Made For is definitely the Best Original Song of the Year. Doesn't matter if Eilish already has an award, if the song is stellar, it deserves to win.

January 9, 2024 | Registered CommenterTOM

To be honest, the Gladstone speech felt completely contrived. You can tell she had planned to create this emotional, potent moment but when she got up on stage, she didn't feel moved at all and it showed. All you could see was some awkwardness and "wow, this is so historic" phrased differently on repeat.

Another narrative push. I so hope the Academy won't fall for it again.

January 9, 2024 | Registered CommenterAd_Mil

I also think Saltburn is going to overperform expectations, which feel barely there? Everyone is watching that movie, there’s no conversation piece like it among the contenders. Between Picture, Screenplay, Supporting Actress and Actor I'll be surprised if it doesn't get two nominations.

January 9, 2024 | Registered CommenterDK

I just saw Saltburn,Barry was impressive,Elordi gave a total 180 to his Priscilla turn,it's very hard to play that kind of role and not lose audience sympathy but Miss Pike stole the show,her dialogue about being a lesbian once was the funniest thing I heard this year,i'd be so pleased if she made the final 5 because outside of Randolph I don't see anyone as totally locked up.

The film has it's problems but it's one of the best and most refreshing films I saw this year and totally out of Oscars wheelhouse but it'd make a solid nominee and it's the one that is destined to last beyond this ceremony and become referenced and discussed for years,it's one of those films.

January 9, 2024 | Registered CommenterMr Ripley79

Wow. I had no idea so many of you can divine the motives of the Hollywood Foreign Press! The Gladstone pick was "political," whatever that means (as if any choice we make isn't political). Wow. Such an insight. Y'all are rolling your eyes at the organization that rewarded Pia Zadora, Three Billboards Outside Ebbing, Missouri, 1917, and Forrest Gump and think it did out of political correctness.

I mean, just admit: you don't like Gladstone's performance (perfectly acceptable) but want to explain other people's reluctance to share your dislike with specious reasons for doing so.

January 9, 2024 | Registered CommenterAlfred

Jason Cooper,
Completely agree about Stone and the reaction when she won.
The Beverly Hilton audience was thrilling!

The same about internet 's hate against Cooper. It's ridiculous, pathetic.
Haters gonna hate, it's all they have to give. Stupid jerks...
I strongly believe Cooper has great chances.

January 9, 2024 | Registered CommenterFabio Dantas Flappers

Just chiming in to say: If Bradley Cooper loses the Oscar, it won't be because internet vitriol turned AMPAS against him. Film Twitter does not have that much power and, as I'm sure we've all learned from years of predicting the race, it is not representative of the Academy's collective opinion.

I agree that people need to simmer down-- and I'm not just talking about Film Twitter-- but not because it's impacting the race.

January 10, 2024 | Registered CommenterEvan

Preach, Alfred!

January 10, 2024 | Registered CommenterJuan Carlos Ojano

The gladstone omission LOL

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